Introducing the 2B FA "competition" for our depth

[btdart20]

Previewing The 2022-23 Free Agent Class: Second Basemen - MLB Trade Rumors

The list is pretty lackluster...  It has to help the trade value of our guys.

[Frobby]

I like this quote:

“Rougned Odor (29): The O’s have somewhat bizarrely given Odor 457 plate appearances despite poor defensive ratings (-9 DRS, -3 OAA) and a .211/.278/.366 slash that generally mirrors the .200/.270/.378 line he’s posted in 966 plate appearances since 2020.”

[pastorfan]

2 hours ago, Frobby said:

I like this quote:

“Rougned Odor (29): The O’s have somewhat bizarrely given Odor 457 plate appearances despite poor defensive ratings (-9 DRS, -3 OAA) and a .211/.278/.366 slash that generally mirrors the .200/.270/.378 line he’s posted in 966 plate appearances since 2020.”

They fail to mention how adept he is at turning double plays...

[Il BuonO]

2 hours ago, pastorfan said:

They fail to mention how adept he is at turning double plays...

Even if you give him that he’s still -9 defensively. 

[Brian88]

4 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

Even if you give him that he’s still -9 defensively. 

Yeah, but he looks cool admiring his singles.

[pastorfan]

6 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

Even if you give him that he’s still -9 defensively. 

I was definitely being sarcastic. I've been dumbfounded that he has played so much despite not being good at any facet of the game.

[Orioles0615]

Either sign Correa or Turner or give the infield job to Henderson, Westburg, Ortiz. No inbetween, no service time crap. Their depth and bench should be Mateo and Urias, and that's all Mateo and Urias  should be. 

Edited September 29, 2022 by Orioles0615

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

1 hour ago, pastorfan said:

I was definitely being sarcastic. I've been dumbfounded that he has played so much despite not being good at any facet of the game.

Plus there are other legit options in the organization that could play 2B. It's not like it's Odor or Pat Valaika as the only choices to play 2B. 

[PHRESH]

5 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Plus there are other legit options in the organization that could play 2B. It's not like it's Odor or Pat Valaika as the only choices to play 2B. 

I was just about to nominate Pat for the job. Nevermind... 

[DrinkinWithFermi]

Man, this year's crop of FA 2Bs is seriously one of the most anemic FA classes for a particular position that I have ever seen. Assuming Philly declines his $17 million club option (which is very likely but not even a complete certainty), there is exactly one guy who has a sustained track record of legitimately above average production, Jean Segura, and he is ~33 and coming off a solid but somewhat down year by his prior standards. After that, there is one guy coming off a good year but with very little prior track record, Brandon Drury, and then it's pretty much all downhill from there. I suppose a team could sign a big money FA SS like Xander or Trea to play 2B if they are open to switching positions, but that would be a pretty inefficient use of resources for most teams. Or they could sign a SS and move their current SS over to 2B if they can afford to/are willing to pay market rates for a quality everyday SS.

In light of all of that, I wonder if some of our potential IF excess, like Urias, Mateo, Westburg, and Ortiz, might fetch a fair amount more in trade from a MIF-needy team than they would in an offseason where there are at least a couple of fairly attractive everyday 2B options. Hopefully Elias can cash in on the situation, whether that be in the form of immediate help for the big league club or more prospects to keep the future talent pipeline pumping. Either way, we definitely seem to be in a strong position heading into the offseason.

[MCO'sFan]

I don't even want to consider a FA at 2B. I want to see what we have in Westburg, Ortiz and Norby.

[NedFromYork]

And Vavra, at least to start the season.

[OriolesMagic83]

19 hours ago, pastorfan said:

They fail to mention how adept he is at turning double plays...

No mention of his veteran leadership either.

[OriolesMagic83]

21 hours ago, btdart20 said:

Previewing The 2022-23 Free Agent Class: Second Basemen - MLB Trade Rumors

The list is pretty lackluster...  It has to help the trade value of our guys.

It seems like Philly would be a prime target for trading one of our middle infielders.  Philly has way more money than the O's, but I can't see them wanting to spend $17 mill on Segura. 

[hallThalmt18h]

50 minutes ago, MCO'sFan said:

I don't even want to consider a FA at 2B. I want to see what we have in Westburg, Ortiz and Norby.

I agree, but I don't think that was the point of the original post. The point is that the weak FA class increases the trade value of our own 2B options.