Would you sign Trea Turner…for CF?

[Sports Guy]

If the Os could trade Mullins for pitching, would you sign Turner for CF?

For me, I’m vehemently against signing any non first base IFer.  

Turner gives you the flexibility for CF. 

The problem  is, you are likely playing high end SS money to get him even he plays CF for you.
 

I would probably rather sign Nimmo for half (or less) the cost.

 

[waroriole]

No. Instead of doing mental gymnastics to find an excuse to trade Cedric, we could just keep Cedric. 

[Aristotelian]

No, in addition to the reasons you mention, Turner is two years older than Mullins and CF is a young man's position. I would also be hesitant to sign Nimmo if the assumption he is going to stay healthy and play CF for 4-5 years. 

[RZNJ]

Doubtful that Turner would sign to be the CF.    I would also just go for Nimmo but with the intention of keeping Mullins and trying to convince one or the other to move to LF.

[Sports Guy]

13 minutes ago, waroriole said:

No. Instead of doing mental gymnastics to find an excuse to trade Cedric, we could just keep Cedric. 

I don’t need an excuse to trade Mullins.  He should go regardless.

 

[RZNJ]

6 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

I don’t need an excuse to trade Mullins.  He should go regardless.

 

Good logic there!    

[Aglets]

5 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

I don’t need an excuse to trade Mullins.  He should go regardless.

 

What do you have against a 4 WAR player (3.8 acc to bb ref this year) playing with us for another few years?

He is ARB-1 for 2023, so he won't be too crazy expensive.   He is 28 so I can see an argument for not giving him a big extension for sure.

He had a crazy good 2021.   Sure that was maybe his peak.....but maybe he can get closer to that in 2023?  

Seems to me the discussion about moving him should only happen if we have another CF prospect beating down the door or if we are seriously concerned about his current cost skyrocketing (not likely to happen until 24-25).

[Jagwar]

10 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

I don’t need an excuse to trade Mullins.  He should go regardless.

 

I'm trying to figure out what the O's have in Mullins... the 2021 version or 2022 version? Or somewhere in between? 

[OriolesMagic83]

There's no way the Angelos' put $250 million into one free agent.  Calling it now.  I will be happy and somewhat surprised if they spend $100 million on one free agent.

[Tony-OH]

Cedric Mullins is going to be 28-years old next year and has put up 9.5 WAR over the last two years. Needing to trade him is silly. Now, is he untouchable in the right deal, absolutely not, but I'll be perfectly happy going into 2023 with Mullins in CF.

Now if we can get him out of the leadoff spot, that would be ideal. 

[Tony-OH]

5 minutes ago, Jagwar said:

I'm trying to figure out what the O's have in Mullins... the 2021 version or 2022 version? Or somewhere in between? 

I think second half (.261/.321/.433/.754) Mullins is who he is offensively, at least if he's asked to continue to play against left-handers. If they can use him a bit like Al Bumby was used by limiting his starts against tough lefties, I think his offensive numbers will rise. 

 

[Sports Guy]

20 minutes ago, Aglets said:

What do you have against a 4 WAR player (3.8 acc to bb ref this year) playing with us for another few years?

He is ARB-1 for 2023, so he won't be too crazy expensive.   He is 28 so I can see an argument for not giving him a big extension for sure.

He had a crazy good 2021.   Sure that was maybe his peak.....but maybe he can get closer to that in 2023?  

Seems to me the discussion about moving him should only happen if we have another CF prospect beating down the door or if we are seriously concerned about his current cost skyrocketing (not likely to happen until 24-25).

Because I don’t think he’s a keeper beyond the next year or 2 and I would rather move him vs the prospects to get the pitching we need.

I think we can improve other areas of the team, make the team better overall, save some money (this shouldn’t be needed but I think it is) while also getting max value for Mullins.

Im certainly ok if we keep him but I think he’s an asset that is better used in a trade.

[Sports Guy]

24 minutes ago, Jagwar said:

I'm trying to figure out what the O's have in Mullins... the 2021 version or 2022 version? Or somewhere in between? 

I think he’s a 5-6 WAR guy the next 2 year combined.  After that I’m very skeptical. 

[RZNJ]

I think SportsGuy just wants to get rid of Mullins before people start digging up posts like this from pre-season 2021.  Derek Fisher (a famous name in Oriole history) was just DFA.

“That’s fine and Mullins can still be on the team.

That being said, Mullins isn’t good and he has very little, if any, upside.

Fisher does.  Btw, UZR and UZR/150 doesn’t hate him as a COer.  Probably not a CFer though.  He’s a big guy, so it’s not all that surprising.

We also have DH at bats too.”

[interloper]

Turner wouldn't sign for CF because a SS makes way more money. His agent would slap him upside the head for agreeing to that.