“Orioles big game shopping & most believe it's exclusively rotation”

[Roll Tide]

1 hour ago, tntoriole said:

Which I also believe was very unfair to Chris. 

It definitely screwed the Orioles big time.

[tabletop]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/rays-have-been-in-contact-with-jacob-degrom.html

[btdart20]

https://jonmeoli.substack.com/p/orioles-kodai-senga?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

Meoli makes a case for/thinks there’s a philosophical match pursuing Senga.  
He sites Senga 4seamer rise/hop paired with a sinker/“ghost fork” with a higher K rate than Bautista’s (in Japan vs MLB).  And that his slider and cutter are ways to attack righties and lefties respectively.

Meoli notes Senga’s desire to play in a big competitive market and there’s nothing we can do about our market size.  But Senga also said he wanted to learn more about analytics.  Which is a focus and maybe a relative strength compared to other teams at this point.

Neat article.

 

[Roll Tide]

8 minutes ago, tabletop said:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/11/rays-have-been-in-contact-with-jacob-degrom.html

I don’t believe the Rays are serious enough to make it happen but who knows.

[Roll Tide]

3 minutes ago, btdart20 said:

https://jonmeoli.substack.com/p/orioles-kodai-senga?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

Meoli makes a case for/thinks there’s a philosophical match pursuing Senga.  
He sites Senga 4seamer rise/hop paired with a sinker/“ghost fork” with a higher K rate than Bautista’s (in Japan vs MLB).  And that his slider and cutter are ways to attack righties and lefties respectively.

Meoli notes Senga’s desire to play in a big competitive market and there’s nothing we can do about our market size.  But Senga also said he wanted to learn more about analytics.  Which is a focus and maybe a relative strength compared to other teams at this point.

Neat article.

 

It would be my preference if we can get it done.

[tabletop]

1 hour ago, Roll Tide said:

I don’t believe the Rays are serious enough to make it happen but who knows.

Well, they were the team competing with the Dodgers for Freeman last year. If I remember correctly the Dodgers only went to 6 years because Tampa was also offering him a 6th year and that's what finally got him to sign for them.

[Roll Tide]

3 hours ago, tabletop said:

Well, they were the team competing with the Dodgers for Freeman last year. If I remember correctly the Dodgers only went to 6 years because Tampa was also offering him a 6th year and that's what finally got him to sign for them.

Yes ….but you always have to be concerned about their next sell off. 

[Aristotelian]

3 hours ago, tabletop said:

Well, they were the team competing with the Dodgers for Freeman last year. If I remember correctly the Dodgers only went to 6 years because Tampa was also offering him a 6th year and that's what finally got him to sign for them.

That, and Freddie's agents failing to disclose to their client that they had a higher 5 year offer from the Braves on the table.

[tabletop]

4 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

That, and Freddie's agents failing to disclose to their client that they had a higher 5 year offer from the Braves on the table.

The radio host who claimed that apologized and retracted his statement.

[Tony-OH]

On 11/28/2022 at 2:48 PM, Frobby said:

I don’t put much stock in what Heyman thinks.  

Except for contracts because he is the mouthpiece for the Boros corporation.

[Aristotelian]

14 minutes ago, tabletop said:

The radio host who claimed that apologized and retracted his statement.

Ah, I missed or forgot the retraction. But did he still fire his agent or was that retracted too? 

[Tony-OH]

On 11/28/2022 at 8:58 PM, Frobby said:

Look at it this way: he signed with the best team in baseball, which plays in a state that has no state income tax.  What would it have taken to beat Houston’s offer?  Wouid even 3/$63 mm have done it?

I'm not some people understand how important these state income taxes are when players decide. Texas and Florida teams always start with that advantage. If the Astros want a player, the Orioles better be ready to well overspend to get them away.

[Tony-OH]

There are like 8 different threads going on on this one. PLEASE make new threads to talk about separate issues so it's easier to follow.

This one is focused on "big name" shopping focusing on rotation pieces. Let's keep it to that.

Thanks.

[interloper]

5 hours ago, btdart20 said:

https://jonmeoli.substack.com/p/orioles-kodai-senga?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

Meoli makes a case for/thinks there’s a philosophical match pursuing Senga.  
He sites Senga 4seamer rise/hop paired with a sinker/“ghost fork” with a higher K rate than Bautista’s (in Japan vs MLB).  And that his slider and cutter are ways to attack righties and lefties respectively.

Meoli notes Senga’s desire to play in a big competitive market and there’s nothing we can do about our market size.  But Senga also said he wanted to learn more about analytics.  Which is a focus and maybe a relative strength compared to other teams at this point.

Neat article.

 

Maybe we could make the case that playing in the AL East is like the big market league of the MLB? Lol. Streeeeetch. 

[Tony-OH]

5 hours ago, btdart20 said:

https://jonmeoli.substack.com/p/orioles-kodai-senga?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

Meoli makes a case for/thinks there’s a philosophical match pursuing Senga.  
He sites Senga 4seamer rise/hop paired with a sinker/“ghost fork” with a higher K rate than Bautista’s (in Japan vs MLB).  And that his slider and cutter are ways to attack righties and lefties respectively.

Meoli notes Senga’s desire to play in a big competitive market and there’s nothing we can do about our market size.  But Senga also said he wanted to learn more about analytics.  Which is a focus and maybe a relative strength compared to other teams at this point.

Neat article.

 

Definitely would need to sell him on the analytics side, the park effects now, and the fact they are going to put a good defense around him. 

Honestly, for the first time in a long time, outside of our sales tax and having to pitch in the AL East, Baltimore is a good place to come for pitchers now.