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Roch this morning had this detail.

I’d expect the Orioles to add at least one reliever before opening day, though it isn’t publicized as a pressing need.

The bullpen was a surprising strength in 2022, but it’s reckless to bank on the exact same numbers from a group that was largely unproven.

https://www.masnsports.com/blog/same-business-on-tap-for-orioles-at-winter-meetings

To the extent Roch Kremlin-ology adjusts for him working for a team-adjacent media entity, its a little interesting anything he'd say to raise expectations with his readers.

Anyhow, RP's being streamed by teams so heavily, some familiar names are out there.     Mychal Givens is one from maybe the Lyles-Gibson-Bassitt WYSIWYG shelf, and Zack Britton is one from the Andrew Heaney "do you feel lucky" shelf.     One near the top of the market, but at least coming off a bad ERA year like Kyle Gibson, is Taylor Rogers.

 

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Rule 5.   I understand the idea of regression but who do you get rid of?   Cionel Perez?  Bautista?   I don’t think so.  Our guys are fairly young and cheap.  If we acquire another starter, it looks like Wells goes to the pen.   That’s good enough for me.

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4 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Rule 5.   I understand the idea of regression but who do you get rid of?   Cionel Perez?  Bautista?   I don’t think so.  Our guys are fairly young and cheap.  If we acquire another starter, it looks like Wells goes to the pen.   That’s good enough for me.

Or you find another minor-league free agent with decent stuff and you coach them up like Perez.   

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Khreibel, Baker, Akin, and Wells have options.  Middle relief is where the pen really started to break down last year. Especially Khreibel. At first, I thought it would be a terrible idea to spend and FA money on a reliever, but another vet to add to MR would be nice considering we’re about to plan on heavily relying on the pen again. 

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Cionel might be a sneaky sell-high trade candidate. Do we really think he can replicate his 2022? Maybe Brewers like him to replace Hader and he's part of a package for Woodruff. Baseballtradevalues has him at 8.7, not far behind Mayo, for example. 

I coveted Brad Boxberger last year and would still love to have him. Last year he went for $2.5M. Seems like a no brainer. Seth Lugo might be another. 

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LOCKS

Bautista 

Perez

Tate 

Baker 

Voth

 

Assuming they have an 8 man pen that’s 3 spots. 

1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Khreibel, Baker, Akin, and Wells have options.  Middle relief is where the pen really started to break down last year. Especially Khreibel. At first, I thought it would be a terrible idea to spend and FA money on a reliever, but another vet to add to MR would be nice considering we’re about to plan on heavily relying on the pen again. 

Obviously how rotation plays out matters. Khreibel and Akin as mentioned have options. Are they willing to put Hall in the pen? They may want him starting which at least at the start of the season means back to AAA.  
 

I can’t see them spending much money on a pen arm. So it would have to be someone off an injury or poor season or a non closer type. Probably the latter. 

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6 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

LOCKS

Bautista 

Perez

Tate 

Baker 

Voth

 

Assuming they have an 8 man pen that’s 3 spots. 

Obviously how rotation plays out matters. Khreibel and Akin as mentioned have options. Are they willing to put Hall in the pen? They may want him starting which at least at the start of the season means back to AAA.  
 

I can’t see them spending much money on a pen arm. So it would have to be someone off an injury or poor season or a non closer type. Probably the latter. 

Akin is another I would consider putting out there as an available trade asset. Based on how they used him, Hyde does not seem to trust him at all. This is just a gut feeling but I am not expecting him to sustain that ERA. The Simulator has him as a 5.5. 

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Just now, Aristotelian said:

Akin is another I would consider putting out there as an available trade asset. Based on how they used him, Hyde does not seem to trust him at all. This is just a gut feeling but I am not expecting him to sustain that ERA. The Simulator has him as a 5.5. 

He would either have to be a part of a package or you are getting a very low level prospect or similar player in return. His K rate went down as season went on. I think he is best served as more of long man/middle type. Teams need those types. 

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11 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

He would either have to be a part of a package or you are getting a very low level prospect or similar player in return. His K rate went down as season went on. I think he is best served as more of long man/middle type. Teams need those types. 

Yes, I am proposing part of a package in a Snell or Woodruff deal. 

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2 hours ago, eddie83 said:

One more thing I would add is I think would like a lefty long man type. I think Akin fits better in that role than bringing him in with traffic on the bases. If I am correct then you are basically looking to upgrade Khreibel spot. 

I think DL Hall could be this guy if they decide to keep him as a reliever this year.

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