Adley Rutschman 2023

[emmett16]

On 4/12/2023 at 6:24 PM, spleen1015 said:

How much did Machado's antics and him being a 'dirty player' have an effect on how much folks liked him?

I don’t think he’s a dirty player.  I think he’s  a very misunderstood guy.  He was a naive teenager and didn’t handle his emotions well at times.  I’m still a massive fan and it’s been impressive and admirable to see how’s he matured over the years. 
 

Now on Adley.  Give him a blank check immediately and let’s go get some World Series.  

[Chaka Garcia]

3 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Who wants Bobby Witt Jr. instead?   Buehler?   Anyone?

Looking back, I thought Adley and Bobby Witt were neck to neck (couldn’t go wrong with either one). Witt would been my selection based on age, pedigree and his ability to play SS.

Still early, but I’m glad someone else made that decision.  
 

However, Witt did have red flags- being a year old than most seniors, strikeouts and questions about his hitting.

[OriolesMagic83]

16 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Nice. I’m sure you can get a hold of someone in the PR department and they could set something up.

That's is very nice of you to do that.  I hope Adley gives you something good for giving him the ball.

[OriolesMagic83]

3 hours ago, Brooks The Great said:

For me it's Judge replacing Franco in the top 3. How can you not have Judge as a favorite after he's picked up right where he left off from his MVP season, and after he almost single-handedly beat the O's in the Yanks' last head-to-head win against them?

Wander has to show that he can stay healthy. I also think both he and the Rays will crash back down to earth pretty hard after they get through the easiest schedule any team in MLB has faced up until this point. They've been beating up on some terrible pitching staffs (which the Orioles also just did to take 3 out of 4 from the worst team in baseball).

I think Tampa Bay is the best team in baseball.  Would any of the O's make their starting rotation?  Springs just went down, so that is a big hit for them.  Obviously at some point they will come back to earth, but they are the most complete team in 2023. 

[OriolesMagic83]

4 minutes ago, emmett16 said:

I don’t think he’s a dirty player.  I think he’s  a very misunderstood guy.  He was a naive teenager and didn’t handle his emotions well at times.  I’m still a massive fan and it’s been impressive and admirable to see how’s he matured over the years. 
 

Now on Adley.  Give him a blank check immediately and let’s go get some World Series.  

How can you not extend this guy.  He's like money in the bank.

If I'm a billionaire owner of the O's, I'm extending Adley for life and giving him a lifetime personal services contract.  I want the people of Baltimore to see Adley wherever they look.  People do realize the O's made hundreds of millions off of Cal.  You can't afford NOT to sign Adley. 

[Billy F-Face3]

Just now, OriolesMagic83 said:

I think Tampa Bay is the best team in baseball.  Would any of the O's make their starting rotation?  Springs just went down, so that is a big hit for them.  Obviously at some point they will come back to earth, but they are the most complete team in 2023. 

The Rays haven't played anyone good yet. They have the easiest schedule to open the season of any team. With that said, you still have to play the games and the other team gets paid to play too. So they deserve to feel good about their winning streak accomplishment to this point. I just think it's a mirage and that will be revealed once the season really gets going. And with all that said, I don't think you can take away from them the fact that they are a good team. Just getting over-hyped right now.

[Can_of_corn]

12 minutes ago, Chaka Garcia said:

Looking back, I thought Adley and Bobby Witt were neck to neck (couldn’t go wrong with either one). Witt would been my selection based on age, pedigree and his ability to play SS.

Still early, but I’m glad someone else made that decision.  
 

However, Witt did have red flags- being a year old than most seniors, strikeouts and questions about his hitting.

I think the better argument is who you got, Witt or Henderson?

[Just Regular]

Career OPS+ up to 137 this morning - ye olde Active leaders:

Rank	Player (yrs, age)	Adjusted OPS+	PA	Bats
1.	Mike Trout (13, 31)	176	6214	R
2.	Aaron Judge (8, 31)	162	3216	R
3.	Paul Goldschmidt (13, 35)	145	7010	R
	Joey Votto (16, 39)	145	8504	L
5.	Miguel Cabrera (21, 40)	142	11452	R
	Bryce Harper (11, 30)	142	5908	L
7.	Giancarlo Stanton (14, 33)	141	6068	R
8.	Freddie Freeman (14, 33)	140	7428	L
9.	Alex Bregman (8, 29)	136	3536	R
10.	José Abreu (10, 36)	134	5565	R
	Mookie Betts (10, 30)	134	5124	R
12.	J.D. Martinez (13, 35)	132	5947	R
	Matt Olson (8, 29)	132	3129	L
14.	Kris Bryant (9, 31)	131	4073	R
	Nelson Cruz (19, 42)	131	8274	R
	Josh Donaldson (13, 37)	131	5684	R
	George Springer (10, 33)	131	4551	R

[backdoorslider]

Only 13 games in so very small sample size, but I wonder why Adleys defensive numbers arent so good to start the year.

[RZNJ]

17 minutes ago, backdoorslider said:

Only 13 games in so very small sample size, but I wonder why Adleys defensive numbers arent so good to start the year.

It looks like mostly framing.   His traditional numbers all look the same or better.

[backdoorslider]

18 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

It looks like mostly framing.   His traditional numbers all look the same or better.

I'm not very well versed in framing stats. Hope he starts framing better the pitchers could use it.

[sevastras]

12 minutes ago, backdoorslider said:

I'm not very well versed in framing stats. Hope he starts framing better the pitchers could use it.

They have to get it close enough for him to frame. 

[backdoorslider]

32 minutes ago, sevastras said:

They have to get it close enough for him to frame. 

Great point man. Its easier to frame guys like Spense watkins because at least hes around the plate. These guys like Rodriguez, Hall and Kremer have no idea where the ball is going. No clue.

[Oriole1940]

The batters also have no idea where the pitch is going and that helps to make them effective.   They

are what the old timers called effectively wild.  

[Brooks The Great]

12 hours ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

The Rays haven't played anyone good yet. They have the easiest schedule to open the season of any team. With that said, you still have to play the games and the other team gets paid to play too. So they deserve to feel good about their winning streak accomplishment to this point. I just think it's a mirage and that will be revealed once the season really gets going. And with all that said, I don't think you can take away from them the fact that they are a good team. Just getting over-hyped right now.

Totally agree. And completely disagree with the poster you quoted who said the Rays are the best team in baseball. They have a great pitching staff and are by far the best organization at developing and optimizing pitchers - both starters and relievers - but they're not the best team in baseball. Their offense isn't anywhere near the best in baseball from a talent perspective, even though they've been beating up on the absolute worst pitching staffs in baseball. We just saw the Orioles take advantage in the same way against the A's (who have the worst team in baseball in terms of talent, and both offense and pitching).

I actually like seeing the Rays start out so hot. I think they'll wind up between 10-20 games above .500 for the season, meaning they'll be playing close to .500 ball the rest of the way. So hopefully that bodes well for the head-to-head matchups against the Orioles.