Jump to content

Adam Frazier 2023

Frobby

By Frobby
in Orioles Talk

 Share

Recommended Posts

Tony-OH Hangout Grand Counsel

Tony-OH

Posted
Posted

Oh yes, the proper place to discuss Frazier.

As I said all along, I will continue to root for Frazier while he wears an Orioles uniform. While I still don't think he's a good player or a good signing, I do think he's been able to find a way to make some impactful hits here and there. His power has been a surprise for everyone but so has been his lack of speed. Holy crap he's slow.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 1.3k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

Tony-OH
Tony-OH

I'm sorry, but you are not a good fit for our community. Good luck elsewhere.

Tony-OH
Tony-OH

I was against the signing, but for all his shortcomings, the man has come up clutch several times this year and no hit of his was bigger than the one in the 9th yesterday.  I've said earlier in t

btdart20
btdart20

At the close of 2022 many of us were saying a TOR SP and some bullpen arms were what we needed.  We didn't need to bring in MI help because we had plenty of shots on goal at 2B and SS.  Elias clearly

Posted Images

EddeeEddee Major Leaguer

EddeeEddee

Posted
Posted
10 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

His statcast numbers are ugly..OAA is -3. 
 

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/adam-frazier-624428?stats=statcast-r-fielding-mlb

 

Still better than Gunnar Henderson's, Ryan Mountcastle's and Ramon Urias' OAA.  Not really familiar with this stat though something tells me it's probably useful over longer periods of time.

I think it's obvious why the O's signed Frazier.  They felt the young hitters could need time to transition to big league pitching.  It's proved more than true with all the young hitters except Adley.  Frazier came cheap for only one year and provides the steady veteran presence in the middle of the infield in the meantime and some decent pop off his bat.

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Teddy OBP Veteran All-Star

Teddy OBP

Posted
Posted
2 minutes ago, EddeeEddee said:

Still better than Gunnar Henderson's, Ryan Mountcastle's and Ramon Urias' OAA.  Not really familiar with this stat though something tells me it's probably useful over longer periods of time.

I think it's obvious why the O's signed Frazier.  They felt the young hitters could need time to transition to big league pitching.  It's proved more than true with all the young hitters except Adley.  Frazier came cheap for only one year and provides the steady veteran presence in the middle of the infield in the meantime and some decent pop off his bat.

Concur. I think he’s doing exactly what they hoped he would do. Plenty to quibble about regarding the contract $ but they clearly weren’t using it toward someone else. People like to mock “veteranosity” but he’s playing above replacement and appears to take a professional approach. There’s something to be said for a little leadership in addition to pure talent.

It’s why I’d spend whatever it takes to keep Adley. He’s both really good and already shows a ton of leadership ability.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sports Guy Hangout Grand Counsel

Sports Guy

Posted
Posted
2 minutes ago, pdiddy said:

Concur. I think he’s doing exactly what they hoped he would do. Plenty to quibble about regarding the contract $ but they clearly weren’t using it toward someone else. People like to mock “veteranosity” but he’s playing above replacement and appears to take a professional approach. There’s something to be said for a little leadership in addition to pure talent.

It’s why I’d spend whatever it takes to keep Adley. He’s both really good and already shows a ton of leadership ability.

 

They expected better defense I would guess.

Offensively for sure. His best trait is the contact rate. Put the ball in play and good things can happen.

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Frobby Hangout Grand Counsel

Frobby

Posted
  • Author
Posted
22 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

They expected better defense I would guess.

Offensively for sure. His best trait is the contact rate. Put the ball in play and good things can happen.

The other defensive metrics like him a little better.  UZR +1.0, Rtot 0, Rdrs -1.   Better in the OF than at 2B, surprisingly. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
seak05 All-Star

seak05

Posted
Posted
3 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

Why?  Why does it matter what side of the plate he hits from?

And btw, none of that is worth an 8M insurance policy.

1) There is zero evidence to suggest that if Frazier hadn’t signed the orioles would have allocated the money to a 30m starting pitcher 

2) at this point the 8m has been spent, so the only question left is whether or not he’s currently belong the club, and is a better available option. 
 

3) large amounts of data on platoon advantages would disagree with your comment that handedness doesn’t matter 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sports Guy Hangout Grand Counsel

Sports Guy

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, seak05 said:

1) There is zero evidence to suggest that if Frazier hadn’t signed the orioles would have allocated the money to a 30m starting pitcher 

2) at this point the 8m has been spent, so the only question left is whether or not he’s currently belong the club, and is a better available option. 
 

3) large amounts of data on platoon advantages would disagree with your comment that handedness doesn’t matter 

Talent matters. Being a good player matters. What side of the plate you hit from doesn’t.

Now, if you have a player, let’s say Westburg, that struggles vs righties and you want a lefty to spell him, that’s fine.

But I don’t believe any such criticism exists for him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Moose Milligan Hangout Grand Counsel

Moose Milligan

Posted
Posted

He’s not as bad as I thought he’d be. He’s an upgrade from Odor the whiff machine. 
 

I don’t think he’s a great defender but he’s had some key hits so far this season. In a late and close situation I think he’s practically the only guy on the team who’s gonna shorten his swing and try to punch it somewhere. He’s not swinging from his heels. 
 

There are some things to like about his game, although I still disagree with the signing. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mr-splash Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

Mr-splash

Posted
Posted
2 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

He’s not as bad as I thought he’d be. He’s an upgrade from Odor the whiff machine. 
 

I don’t think he’s a great defender but he’s had some key hits so far this season. In a late and close situation I think he’s practically the only guy on the team who’s gonna shorten his swing and try to punch it somewhere. He’s not swinging from his heels. 
 

There are some things to like about his game, although I still disagree with the signing. 

 

We dont win this game with Ortiz starting at 2B.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • Safelykept
      The Difference between the O's and other Playoff teams

      By Safelykept · Posted

      ???. Cowser took more swings against LF than any other LH hitter on the team ( not named  Henderson). He was one of the guys they did not platoon.
    • Big O
      Kevin Seitzer hitting coach?

      By Big O · Posted

      I think Kevin Seiyltzer was the fall guy for a team that thought they were a championship team.  This guy has overseen more a decade of hitting in Atlanta, has been through developing and helping young batters succeed when the league adjusts.  Most importantly, he has a ring! 
    • glenn__davis
      Other teams playoffs game thread

      By glenn__davis · Posted

      Glad one poseur AL team is out.  I hope CLE wins and knocks the other one out tomorrow. 
    • bpilktree67
      The Difference between the O's and other Playoff teams

      By bpilktree67 · Posted

      I honestly think there is very little difference in most the teams that made the playoffs.  The most wins was 98 wins and there was 12 teams with 86 wins or more.  It also seems that many of the teams are on the same page with scouting and analytics now hitting wise.  Years back you had moneyball which the A’s used before anyone else.  Then the Astros and few teams started with analytics and seemed to be ahead of the rest of the league but they have caught up now imo.  Now the move seems to be on launch angle and hitting homers by getting the ball in the air but that seems to be across the league.  Obviously some teams have more money and more talented players but the strategy seems about the same.  The main differences I see is in pitching in the playoffs which is bullpen games and using openers rather then a starter to go 7 innings and carry your team to win now a slight sign of trouble they are taking them out.  With all these short inning guys and pitching them in certain pockets we are seeing very little offense and the hitting with runners in scoring position has been awful.  It all comes down to RISP at bats and getting 1 or 2 big base hits in those situations.  We just haven’t been able to get those hits so far in short series.  
    • OsFanSinceThe80s
      The Difference between the O's and other Playoff teams

      By OsFanSinceThe80s · Posted

      And we've seen similar with Kjerstad. Kjerstad might be the best pure hitting prospect in the Orioles system of recent years besides Gunnar. I want to see him playing everyday next year is possible none of this sitting him versus LHP more often than not. These prospects need to get their reps and stop treating them like John Lowenstein and Benny Ayala.
    • bpilktree67
      Offseason Trade Pondering

      By bpilktree67 · Posted

      I don’t see Elias trading off prospects anymore at least top guys.  We have moved a few guys in last year and I expect they try to build that back up.  They should have money to use if they want to add talent.  
    • OsFanSinceThe80s
      Other teams playoffs game thread

      By OsFanSinceThe80s · Posted

      Blah, well Rob Manfred has to be happy along with Fox network. A Yankees-Mets World Series match up is still on the table and the Dodgers as well if they win tomorrow. I knew the Royals would get jettisoned by the Yankees without too much of a fight.

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...