Angelos wanted two year lease extension

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, OrangeTurtle said:

Politics free board, eh? Cute inclusion of "vaccine" there.

Sports guy is never cute.

[EddeeEddee]

2 hours ago, accinfo said:

Yes it is but more people are moving there each year than anywhere else in the USA.  I also think MLB will look at this as a regional franchise with big cties, Knoxville and Memphis about 3 hours away.  There is also big money down there because of the music business.

Nashville isn't even close to being the fastest growing metro area in the US.  Click on the link below and then click on the % Change column to rank the metro areas by growth.  Nashville appears to be outside of the top 40 fastest growing areas, behind even Salisbury, MD and Hagerstown, MD.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_statistical_area

[Going Underground]

The arena was refurbished for $250 million. Let Angelos put some money up.$900 million is ridiculous. But in negotiations you ask for the moon and normal people compromise 

He notes that the improvements didn’t cost taxpayers a cent, because the Oak View Group funded the renovations in return for rights to manage and lease the facility. And he points out that the renovations were completed in slightly more than a year, a time frame that naysayers thought would be impossible to pull off.

[Going Underground]

11 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Sports guy is never cute.

His right side profile pick is very ,very cute 

[Can_of_corn]

6 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

The arena was refurbished for $250 million. Let Angelos put some money up.$900 million is ridiculous. But in negotiations you ask for the moon and normal people compromise 

He notes that the improvements didn’t cost taxpayers a cent, because the Oak View Group funded the renovations in return for rights to manage and lease the facility. And he points out that the renovations were completed in slightly more than a year, a time frame that naysayers thought would be impossible to pull off.

Not 900M, 1.2B.

[Fan4Life]

Is any of this new?

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/08/john-angelos-reportedly-seeking-public-land-extra-funding-in-orioles-stadium-lease-negotiations.html

 

[accinfo]

1 hour ago, EddeeEddee said:

Nashville isn't even close to being the fastest growing metro area in the US.  Click on the link below and then click on the % Change column to rank the metro areas by growth.  Nashville appears to be outside of the top 40 fastest growing areas, behind even Salisbury, MD and Hagerstown, MD.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_statistical_area

If I was wrong about that I apologize, but I heard or read that somewhere.  I travel there once a month and there are sure a ton of construction going on.  I will predict they get a MLB team one way or the other by the end of the decade.

This is what I read. https://www.wkrn.com/news/report-nashville-takes-top-spot-as-city-with-most-economic-growth-in-2021/

Edited August 11, 2023 by accinfo

[EddeeEddee]

36 minutes ago, accinfo said:

If I was wrong about that I apologize, but I heard or read that somewhere.  I travel there once a month and there are sure a ton of construction going on.  I will predict they get a MLB team one way or the other by the end of the decade.

This is what I read. https://www.wkrn.com/news/report-nashville-takes-top-spot-as-city-with-most-economic-growth-in-2021/

No worries, I guess I assumed you meant some other kind of growth metric, actually.  Yeah, no doubt Nashville is becoming a bigger economic player.  Maybe what they're measuring is rate of GDP growth or employment relative to other cities of similar size or larger.  

[Nite]

1 hour ago, Fan4Life said:

Is any of this new?

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/08/john-angelos-reportedly-seeking-public-land-extra-funding-in-orioles-stadium-lease-negotiations.html

 

No but is a nice short summary as to what's going on.

[Going Underground]

1 hour ago, Fan4Life said:

Is any of this new?

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/08/john-angelos-reportedly-seeking-public-land-extra-funding-in-orioles-stadium-lease-negotiations.html

 

No,but this is. So now the Hogan MSA appointee is bickering with the Moore administration. So both sides are blsming each other. The losers are the taxpayers but no  one cares about them. At least no joint statements from the prior administration. 

 

As Orioles lease deadline neared, ex-stadium authority chair says John Angelos and Gov. Moore left him in the dark
https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-angelos-orioles-lease-extension-stadium-authority-20230811-wmguq4awlbhqrj5uaic75ywc54-story.html

Edited August 11, 2023 by Going Underground

[Going Underground]

4 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

No,but this is. So now the Hogan MSA appointee is bickering with the Moore administration. So both sides are blsming each other. The losers are the taxpayers but no  one cares about them. At least no joint statements from the prior administration. 

 

As Orioles lease deadline neared, ex-stadium authority chair says John Angelos and Gov. Moore left him in the dark
https://www.baltimore

 

Kelso said he learned about the two-year proposal in an email from the stadium authority’s counsel on the evening of Jan. 31, after returning from a dinner at the Black Olive restaurant in Fells Point with Angelos and Sashi Brown, the Ravens president. Kelso said he convened the meeting to establish better communication between the neighboring teams.

Kelso said Angelos didn’t mention the two-year extension plan during the dinner or in a conversation on the street afterward.

The next day, Moore’s schedule shows that immediately after delivering his first State of the State speech, he had a 30-minute call scheduled with Angelos. A week later, on Feb. 8, attorney Craig Thompson made his first appearance on Moore’s calendar with a 45-minute meeting. Moore named Thompson on Feb. 17 to replace Kelso as chair of the stadium authority board. The Sun obtained the governor’s schedule under a Maryland Public Information Act request.

[SouthernBird]

whisper-=(If Nashville builds it, will they come?)=-whisper 

[SouthernBird]

1 hour ago, accinfo said:

If I was wrong about that I apologize, but I heard or read that somewhere.  I travel there once a month and there are sure a ton of construction going on.  I will predict they get a MLB team one way or the other by the end of the decade.

This is what I read. https://www.wkrn.com/news/report-nashville-takes-top-spot-as-city-with-most-economic-growth-in-2021/

I have lived in Nashville my entire life, and YES, it has been exploding for the last 10-15 years. We will get a team, that is a given.

[Ripken]

11 minutes ago, SouthernBird said:

I have lived in Nashville my entire life, and YES, it has been exploding for the last 10-15 years. We will get a team, that is a given.

Yes, and it won't be the Orioles.  That is a given, too.

[drjohnnyfever1]

13 hours ago, Going Underground said:

No,but this is. So now the Hogan MSA appointee is bickering with the Moore administration. So both sides are blsming each other. The losers are the taxpayers but no  one cares about them. At least no joint statements from the prior administration. 

 

As Orioles lease deadline neared, ex-stadium authority chair says John Angelos and Gov. Moore left him in the dark
https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-angelos-orioles-lease-extension-stadium-authority-20230811-wmguq4awlbhqrj5uaic75ywc54-story.html

Thanks for posting these stories.  It should shock me, but it doesn't, that for 10 weeks after the November Gubernatorial election JA claimed to have put a hold on negotiations, yet still met with the MSA on Zoom and for phone calls before Kelso was replaced.  I guess he missed the days in law school where "negotiating in good faith" were covered.  What a tool.

Nothing JA says is based in truth.  And based on that, everything is an option including moving the team.

Interesting that a long-term lease (15 year) is the requirement for getting that 600M, too.  So right now, my belief is that his commitment to the great city of Baltimore and it's wonderful fans is merely short-term so he can continue to weigh his options.  Never thought it would be possible to overcome the level of hatred for old Bourbon Bob, but JA is cruising down that road at a good clip.