Jump to content

John Angelos continues to remind us how awful he is


Sports Guy

Recommended Posts

1 minute ago, Malike said:

That would accomplish nothing, let them play this season out without them thinking the fans are more concerned with the FO than what they are accomplishing on the field.

It accomplishes plenty. It probably wouldn’t matter to him but oh well, I would do everything to embarrass him and publicly make him look like the giant excrement he is.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

It accomplishes plenty. It probably wouldn’t matter to him but oh well, I would do everything to embarrass him and publicly make him look like the giant excrement he is.

You can't shame the shameless, it's not even worth the effort of trying.

  • Upvote 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, deward said:

You still have to get the moves right, but a higher payroll buys you lots of options.

And limits lots of options too.. not everyone is a Steve Cohen who can spend 150 million to other teams to send his free agent mistakes  to another team or to just eat the cost. 


 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, Malike said:

The only thing I've contended is that if Peter passes away, his wife owns the team and doesn't have to pay estate taxes, I'm not sure why this is going in 900 directions. People were speaking as if when Peter passes, they will have to sell the team because they can't afford the estate tax. I'm not a lawyer or even remotely interested in either estate or tax law, just simply saying that Georgia will own the team with no estate tax needing to be paid.

Sorry .. I understand that. My point is that just because you inherit Peter Angelos estate does not entitle you to necessarily be approved as an MLB owner(not an inheritable right) .  Separate things. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, tntoriole said:

Sorry .. I understand that. My point is that just because you inherit Peter Angelos estate does not entitle you to necessarily be approved as an MLB owner(not an inheritable right) .  Separate things. 

Oh, I see. It would be interesting to see what they make the Orioles do if anything should that happen. I'm not sure what type of relationship she has with the MLB owners.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 minutes ago, baltfan said:

And who says he is willing to do so?  Boras tells his guys not to. 

Boras was Ben McDonald's agent when Ben signed a long term deal with the Orioles. Ben said he let Boras do his thing and Ben stayed out of it.

Side note: Scott Boras is Gunnar Henderson AND Jackson Holliday's agent.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Malike said:

Oh, I see. It would be interesting to see what they make the Orioles do if anything should that happen. I'm not sure what type of relationship she has with the MLB owners.

Well since Peter has developed such good will with the Commissioner and other owners over the years .. i am sure it won’t be an issue.  Lol 

  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

You would have to be pretty naive to not think this is all political.

If I got reprimanded on this forum for simply mentioning Baltimore crime rates as a deterrent for people coming to the stadium, than you have no business turning this forum into politics. 

Man up and stop your pouting.

  • Upvote 1
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

46 minutes ago, wildcard said:

All I want is an Orioles team that goes to the playoffs year after year and Wins a World Series every once in a while.   This other stuff is just noice to me.  I didn't get upset at the Connolly thing or the Kevin Brown thing or this article because I get to watch the O's play great baseball game after game.

That's kinda the point here. Not retaining some of the players will make it almost impossible to get to the playoffs... never mind the "occasional WS". 

 

I'm enjoying the success of the team as much as anyone, but I'm under zero assumptions that this is any long term thing. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

Boras was Ben McDonald's agent when Ben signed a long term deal with the Orioles. Ben said he let Boras do his thing and Ben stayed out of it.

Side note: Scott Boras is Gunnar Henderson AND Jackson Holliday's agent.

Ben never signed a long term deal with the Orioles.  He only signed his initial deal after the draft.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

He said prior to this interview they were going to emulate the Rays.  I don’t know why anyone is surprised by any of this.  He said that they probably won’t be able to keep people here their whole careers.  After Machado, is that a surprise to anyone ?   Suppose Gunnar becomes a superstar, would you want the Orioles when he hit free agency to offer a 10-12 year deal?   Did you think they should have paid Machado?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

38 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

It is funny how much of a little b**** he is to give this interview to the Clinton Times.

The local media has been all over him and rightfully so. They might actually call him on his bs but paper The Lib Times wonte. They will just write the dirty, not question it and not drag him through the mud.

 

I personally could care less whether he talked to the Times or NY Post. But why before the season is not over are you talking about not signing players or raising the overpriced tickets and concession prices astronomically. Based on this assumption that payroll is tied to  ticket prices are too high this year by far. 

 

Did anyone here 105.7 this afternoon? 

Ken told him please shut up and let us enjoy the season. LaConfora sort of agreed with him. Is Laconfora still on MASN?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.




  • Posts

    • I'm certainly not "fixated" on this. The real issue is the budget. How high will Rubenstein be willing to grow the payroll?
    • It will be retired with the first big $$ free agent or extension signed under Rubenstein.
    • I have no idea what you are arguing. 
    • Cool, nice work there.   So? Are we owed a large market? Does DC not deserve their own team? Should the fans of Baltimore just become Redskins fans and not tried to get their own team when the Colts left?  (sorry to bring up football again but come on, that fits). I laid it all out a couple months ago, MLB has more teams bringing home the hunk of metal than other sports since 2000.  The competitive balance is fine.  It's harder?  Yea?  OK it's harder.
    • The Cowboys have an owner with deep pockets. I agree 100% … There is some cap manipulation that happens. At the end of the day they have a $255 million limit they are required to operate under. The Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, etc can decide each year how much they want to add to the luxury tax fund as opposed to not being able to fit a potential move under the cap. Here are the 2024 payrolls for the NFL and MLB   https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2024/04/03/mlb-team-payrolls-2024-highest-lowest-mets/73139425007/ Highest $305 million vs $60 million  https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/_/year/2024/sort/cap_maximum_space Highest $259.5 million vs $217 million these numbers will likely get tighter once they make additions before the trade deadline.  If you can’t see the difference I’m just wasting my time. The biggest driving force in MLB beyond the ability of some to spend lavishly is the tv markets. The club controls so much of their tv revenue that it’s an unfair game. The moved that created the Orioles didn’t have much of an effect on the Senators tv market which was likely nonexistent then. Plus MLB is allowing contract manipulation like Othani’s contract. Instead of $700 divided by length 10 years, Somehow he only counts as like $46 million which is laughable. Plus they are paying $85 million in luxury tax fees in 2024.    The Orioles were a large market team when the Expos moved to DC. They could afford to spend with the Yankees, Red Sox , and Blue Jays. Could the Orioles afford to pay $85 million in luxury tax fees? Could the Yankees? I know the answer to both.  What grounds ? Who cares ? The impact was astronomical …It made it very difficult to compete in the AL East without tank a thon! It split their tv market in half. Obviously MLB papered over that long enough to get an agreement done.    They turned a large market team into 2 small/mid market teams. The Orioles and Nationals payrolls combined place them only 11th in baseball. Obviously they could afford to spend more. But it’s doubtful either will ever be top 10 for more than a season  or two as they try to hang onto a window.     
    • Thanks for the detailed explanation of all of the issues.  Sounds like a mess.
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...