2024 Ongoing Lineup Thread

[spleen1015]

17 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

I was thinking Gunnar might take a run at 162. Too bad but I get it. 

I was hoping for 2633!

[jsaghy02]

4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I’m pretty sure the O’s front office can read a stat sheet.   

Agreed. I think this is entirely based on Hyde's obsession with handedness. He avoids batting lefties against LHP wherever possible, numbers be damned.

[Sports Guy]

3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I’m pretty sure the O’s front office can read a stat sheet.   

They can read it but can they follow it?  McCann has been terrible vs lefties for the last 3 years and yet they continue to put him in there vs lefties and ignore a guy like Stowers who has proven he can hit lefties. (Not sure if KS I’d healthy to play yet but it’s a general point)
 

 

 

[Flash- bd]

Just now, Sports Guy said:

They can read it but can they follow it?  McCann has been terrible vs lefties for the last 3 years and yet they continue to put him in there vs lefties and ignore a guy like Stowers who has proven he can hit lefties. (Not sure if KS I’d healthy to play yet but it’s a general point)
 

 

 

Yeah, I dunno, Hyde has demonstrated to me these last couple seasons that he's got no clue what he's doing.  

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

They can read it but can they follow it?  McCann has been terrible vs lefties for the last 3 years and yet they continue to put him in there vs lefties and ignore a guy like Stowers who has proven he can hit lefties. (Not sure if KS I’d healthy to play yet but it’s a general point)
 

 

 

Are you suggesting that Stowers catch?

McCann hasn't been the DH this season.

[Sports Guy]

5 minutes ago, Flash- bd said:

Yeah, I dunno, Hyde has demonstrated to me these last couple seasons that he's got no clue what he's doing.  

Yes because this is exactly what I’m saying.  Thank you for your contribution of bs.

In glad you think playing a sub 600 hitter who is worse than that carries is a good decision and that we should never question anything.  

[Flash- bd]

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

Yes because this is exactly what I’m saying.  Thank you for your contribution of bs.

In glad you think playing a sub 600 hitter who is worse than that carries is a good decision and that we should never question anything.  

I don't think we should never question anything, but lineup decisions really is stretching it, for me, especially when we know for a fact he's taking into account more information and analytics than just splits, information that we are not privy to. 

[Sports Guy]

7 minutes ago, Flash- bd said:

I don't think we should never question anything, but lineup decisions really is stretching it, for me, especially when we know for a fact he's taking into account more information and analytics than just splits, information that we are not privy to. 

So then I guess you should stay out of the lineup thread if you just want to give every lineup an A grade and feel people should talk bassbaml and cast their yays.

The last part of your post doesn’t make much sense but whatever.

[RZNJ]

55 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I’m glad that Hays and Mateo are healthy enough to play.  I’ll be watching Hays carefully to see if he looks like he’s playing through some pain (bad idea) or is comfortable.  

If he goes 0-4 with 2 strikeouts and swings at pitches a foot off the plate, he’s fighting through the pain.  If he gets a couple of hits he’s feeling better.

[Flash- bd]

12 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

So then I guess you should stay out of the lineup thread if you just want to give every lineup an A grade and feel people should talk bassbaml and cast their yays.

The last part of your post doesn’t make much sense but whatever.

I come into the lineup thread to see the lineups! Occasionally I see very humorous posts by DirtyBird, too!  

Why doesn't the last part of my post make sense? 

[Sports Guy]

McCann had a 467 OPS vs lefties and has been bad bs lefties for 3 years running.  
 

What analytic stats do they have that we dont at this point, especially with statcast now part of our everyday?

[Frobby]

21 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

If he goes 0-4 with 2 strikeouts and swings at pitches a foot off the plate, he’s fighting through the pain.  If he gets a couple of hits he’s feeling better.

Un-ironically, I hope he does the latter.  

[eddie83]

Either you start O’Hearn at DH or play McCann.  
 

-Mullins is not hitting 

-Stowers beat up

-Gunnar day off

 

I can see wanting to rest Adley whenever you can   

 

[Flash- bd]

3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

McCann had a 467 OPS vs lefties and has been bad bs lefties for 3 years running.  
 

What analytic stats do they have that we dont at this point, especially with statcast now part of our everyday?

2 years + 45 PA this season. His career OPS vs. LHP is are .741 and .638. I'm guessing they give a lot more weight to that (2657 PAs) than his last 515 PA, which is the time you are referring to when he has had reverse splits. Given that it's 5 times bigger the sample and including the recent sample he still has dramatically favorable splits vs. LHP, and given how little can be divined from a 515 PA sample in a vacuum--and especially in a case of something as volatile as splits--that sounds to me like a pretty rational decision. Perhaps I am giving too much benefit of a doubt but I certainly think that baseball decision makers, especially in this organization, pay attention to things like recency bias, etc.

What analytic stats? Models, no doubt, models that can shed light on just the kind of thing I'm talking about above. Probably models shedding light on pitcher type and pitch type that he'll be facing. Aside from that, I included the word information for a reason, not just analytics, because people within a team's clubhouse are privy to all kind of relevant information in a decision like this that we are not. 

[DirtyBird]

1 minute ago, eddie83 said:

Either you start O’Hearn at DH or play McCann.  

Could DH Santander and play Stowers in RF