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How about Matsui? He's having a decent year in Colorado.

"1 year/$1.5M (2007) - contract includes clause requiring club to sign Matsui to an extension by sometime in 2007, or release him (effectively granting him free agency after 3 years of ML service)"

Edit: I see he's been playing 2B exclusively in 2007.

In any case:

 I Split         G   GS  PA  AB  R   H  2B 3B HR RBI  BB IBB  SO HBP  SH  SF ROE GDP  SB CS   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  BAbip sOPS+ tOPS+ Split+-+------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+------------+  Home          38  36 170 157  36  52  6  4  3  20  12   1  21   0   1   0   1   1  12  1  .331  .379  .478  .856  .368   124   128 Home           Away          44  39 182 166  30  42 11  2  0  10  12   0  35   0   4   0   4   0  16  1  .253  .303  .343  .647  .321    75    73 Away         
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In any case:
 I Split         G   GS  PA  AB  R   H  2B 3B HR RBI  BB IBB  SO HBP  SH  SF ROE GDP  SB CS   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  BAbip sOPS+ tOPS+ Split+-+------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+------------+  Home          38  36 170 157  36  52  6  4  3  20  12   1  21   0   1   0   1   1  12  1  .331  .379  .478  .856  .368   124   128 Home           Away          44  39 182 166  30  42 11  2  0  10  12   0  35   0   4   0   4   0  16  1  .253  .303  .343  .647  .321    75    73 Away         

So, we sign him and move the team to Denver...;)

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Right.

A team used to be able to justify giving up real talent for Tejada on the grounds that he is an underpaid superstar the likes of which you could never get for the same $$$ on the FA market.

Now, Tejada is neither underpaid, nor a superstar. You can argue that his contract is still reasonable, and in line with what he'd get if he was a FA, but it is no longer a selling point.

I'm sorry, but this is complete baloney. Have you paid any attention to contract inflation the past few seasons? The 2/26 left on Tejada's contract is still an incredible bargain. Tejada's been better than Andruw Jones over the three years before this year, and has declined less this year. Andruw is going to get a much, much bigger contract than 2/26, and so would Tejada.

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I'm sorry, but this is complete baloney. Have you paid any attention to contract inflation the past few seasons? The 2/26 left on Tejada's contract is still an incredible bargain. Tejada's been better than Andruw Jones over the three years before this year, and has declined less this year. Andruw is going to get a much, much bigger contract than 2/26, and so would Tejada.

Tejada will be owed 30M after this year.

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I'm sorry, but this is complete baloney. Have you paid any attention to contract inflation the past few seasons? The 2/26 left on Tejada's contract is still an incredible bargain. Tejada's been better than Andruw Jones over the three years before this year, and has declined less this year. Andruw is going to get a much, much bigger contract than 2/26, and so would Tejada.

Two words. Bobby Abreu.

Traded for squat with 1.5 years + 1 option year remaining. Nobody but the Yankees wanted and could afford a $20M+ commitment for a declining, thirtysomething former star.

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First, the 30 million: I think the extra 4 million your talking about is the deferred signing bonus: wouldn't the Orioles still be picking that up? I don't see why that would be transferred to another team, since it's a deferred payment and not salary.

Two words. Bobby Abreu.

Traded for squat with 1.5 years + 1 option year remaining. Nobody but the Yankees wanted and could afford a $20M+ commitment for a declining, thirtysomething former star.

Abreu had a no-trade clause that he waived to be traded to the Yankees. He wanted additional financial compensation to waive it for other teams. It's not really a comparable situation.

How much do you think Tejada would get if he was a FA after this season, and how much do you think Andruw will get?

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Two words. Bobby Abreu.

Traded for squat with 1.5 years + 1 option year remaining. Nobody but the Yankees wanted and could afford a $20M+ commitment for a declining, thirtysomething former star.

Abreu is a corner OF, who's a little older and was traded with another salary dump (Lidle).

Not saying Miggi has great value, but I don't know if that's a good comp.

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Horrible idea. He isn't good.

Alright, SG. You're getting me on this Lillibridge wagon. He looks really good. Hopefully, our scouts are checking this kid out. I mean... he's really close to the area, being in Richmond.

And...

I DID read today that the Braves were thinking about trading Renteria. Miguel would probably work better in the NL on a team like Atlanta, even though they are looking at grooming Escobar into the starting role.

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Alright, SG. You're getting me on this Lillibridge wagon. He looks really good. Hopefully, our scouts are checking this kid out. I mean... he's really close to the area, being in Richmond.

We HAVE to have seen him. He's been in the Carolina and International leagues for most of his professional career. Our minor leaguers and coaches have played against him.

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Back to SS prospects, here's how BP's Kevin Goldstein ranks them as of 8/10:

1. Brignac(TB)

2. Hu(LAD)

3. Triunfel(SEA)

4. Lillibridge(ATL)

5. Lowrie(BOS)

6. Gomez(COL)

7. Nelson(COL)

8. Donald(PHI)

9. Andrus(TEX)

10. Bixler(PIT)

11. Gonzalez(WAS)

12. Plouffe(MIN)

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Back to SS prospects, here's how BP's Kevin Goldstein ranks them as of 8/10:

1. Brignac(TB)

2. Hu(LAD)

3. Triunfel(SEA)

4. Lillibridge(ATL)

5. Lowrie(BOS)

6. Gomez(COL)

7. Nelson(COL)

8. Donald(PHI)

9. Andrus(TEX)

10. Bixler(PIT)

11. Gonzalez(WAS)

12. Plouffe(MIN)

Jeez, Colorado has 2 more.

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Back to SS prospects, here's how BP's Kevin Goldstein ranks them as of 8/10:

1. Brignac(TB)

2. Hu(LAD)

3. Triunfel(SEA)

4. Lillibridge(ATL)

5. Lowrie(BOS)

6. Gomez(COL)

7. Nelson(COL)

8. Donald(PHI)

9. Andrus(TEX)

10. Bixler(PIT)

11. Gonzalez(WAS)

12. Plouffe(MIN)

So, Hu's second?

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Tomohiro Nioka (Japan) - Nioka, who is wrapping up his ninth year with the Yomiuri Giants, could be the best shortstop available as a free agent this winter. The 31-year-old hit .289/.329/.472 with 25 homers last year and is batting .294/.340/.456 with 17 homers in 412 at-bats this season. Nioka's power probably wouldn't translate very well over to the majors and he's not a basestealer, but he would offer very good defense.

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Tomohiro Nioka (Japan) - Nioka, who is wrapping up his ninth year with the Yomiuri Giants, could be the best shortstop available as a free agent this winter. The 31-year-old hit .289/.329/.472 with 25 homers last year and is batting .294/.340/.456 with 17 homers in 412 at-bats this season. Nioka's power probably wouldn't translate very well over to the majors and he's not a basestealer, but he would offer very good defense.

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