allstar1579 Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Way too early to call Brandon Snyder "a crapshoot that doesn't pan out"... Have to agree with you there. Just because he isn't AGonz or Fielder doesn't mean the type of hitter he is wouldn't help a ML team. Also have to say it's way too early to say that Josh Bell isn't a possible 3rd baseman of the future. It's funny how people turn on prospects the moment they aren't putting up some outrageous stats. Last season half this board was clamoring to trade Jake A. that he was overrated. Now that he's doing well again those same people want him in the ML rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoelesJoe Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 But I'm forced to admit, with the next 11 games against Boston and NY, 3-25 seems quite likely. Roberts, Pie are out for a while. Reimold and Tejada are banged up. Atkins is beyond atrocious. Wieters is a singles hitter. The bullpen is as bad as ever. AND I bet we trade Millwood/Guthrie to a contender at the trade deadline.If we finish with the 2nd or 3rd worst record, I'm going to be pissed. We lose just enough games every year to miss out on the top tier talent and get stuck with crapshoots that don't pan out like Rowell and Snyder. For once, let's just stink enough to get ourselves a sure thing stud! I don't know -- Matusz and Wieters look like top tier talent to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocJJ Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 We lost enough games to get a top 5 pick those years. It's all the years where we finished outside the top 5 that have ruined our drafts= Snyder, Rowell, Townsend, Hale, etc. The only top 5 pick that didn't pan out was Loewen, and that was due to injury... It's almost like NBA basketball. The top 5 in the draft seem destined to succeed, but once you get out of the top 5, luck and chance factor in a lot more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mac Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Have to agree with you there. Just because he isn't AGonz or Fielder doesn't mean the type of hitter he is wouldn't help a ML team. Also have to say it's way too early to say that Josh Bell isn't a possible 3rd baseman of the future. It's funny how people turn on prospects the moment they aren't putting up some outrageous stats. Last season half this board was clamoring to trade Jake A. that he was overrated. Now that he's doing well again those same people want him in the ML rotation. Exactly. To ignore what a prospect has done over the past 2-3 years in favor of this months at-bats is ridiculous, at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stotle Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 We lost enough games to get a top 5 pick those years. It's all the years where we finished outside the top 5 that have ruined our drafts= Snyder, Rowell, Townsend, Hale, etc. The only top 5 pick that didn't pan out was Loewen, and that was due to injury...It's almost like NBA basketball. The top 5 in the draft seem destined to succeed, but once you get out of the top 5, luck and chance factor in a lot more... The NBA and MLB draft could not be more different. Those parallels you are drawing aren't even superficially accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oriolefan1035 Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 We lost enough games to get a top 5 pick those years. It's all the years where we finished outside the top 5 that have ruined our drafts= Snyder, Rowell, Townsend, Hale, etc. The only top 5 pick that didn't pan out was Loewen, and that was due to injury...It's almost like NBA basketball. The top 5 in the draft seem destined to succeed, but once you get out of the top 5, luck and chance factor in a lot more... I realize it's far too early to evaluate the pick yet, but does Hobgood seem like a sure thing to you? I for one am not convinced he'll become a piece of our future core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocJJ Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Which is why many criticized that pick. Last years' draft may not have had a sure-thing past the top 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stotle Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Which is why many criticized that pick.Last years' draft may not have had a sure-thing past the top 3. So who are your "sure" Top 3 from last year? The idea that you can even quantify a "break point" for "sure things" in a baseball draft class is..........flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennOsfan Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Baseball America recently rated one of our local boys as the top high schooler for the 2011 draft. Daniel Norris is a junior for Science Hill in Johnson City, a left-handed pitcher who can top out in the mid 90s. BA had him going as the fifth pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocJJ Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 When I get a chance, I'll crunch the numbers and determine what percentage of top 5 draftees made a meaningful contribution to their sport in both the NBA and MLB, and what percentage of picks 6-30 did the same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraw238 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I say we tank the rest of the season so we can pick up Anthony Rendon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutman Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I say we tank the rest of the season so we can pick up Anthony Rendon. As much as I like Rendon, not sure I want to suffer through the worst recond in baseball to get him. I think we're destined for another top 5 pick, but here's hoping we turn it around and don't suffer that fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraw238 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 As much as I like Rendon, not sure I want to suffer through the worst recond in baseball to get him. I think we're destined for another top 5 pick, but here's hoping we turn it around and don't suffer that fate. Agreed but were off to a good start for worst record. My take is that Rendon profiles as the elite power bat that our system badly needs. He'd be ready to contribute about the time our nucleus is hopefully ready to make the push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookinUp Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I predict we'll have the 5th pick in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraw238 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I predict we'll have the 5th pick in 2011. That's a solid prediction. And we won't be getting the impact bat of that draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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