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Hank Scorpio Hangout Grand Counsel

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I don't like the "tip your hat" deal, but like you said, the Indians are hitting tough pitches to hit. There's nothing to chew Arrieta out over.

He's getting there... so far that's 2 walks and a hit batter this inning.

Plus he let someone have third base, more or less.

There's two more runs that were on base because of free passes.

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Hank Scorpio Hangout Grand Counsel

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Excuses, excuses....yes those .180 and .165 Cleveland hitters, they are just the second coming of Babe Ruth....the fact is you cannot hit a guy when you have gotten to the second out after giving up the two runs and cleared the bases....Arrieta let the whole cycle start all over again by doing that...that was what he needs to be reminded of...

You can't, but in fairness, he didn't. There's no way that pitch hit Marston. That was just a crappy call by the umpire.

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He has still only thrown 65 pitches and until that inning was cruising. I would bring him out to start the 5th and see if he can regain his composure.

That's how I'd handle it too, have someone up in the bullpen just in case.

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You can't, but in fairness, he didn't. There's no way that pitch hit Marston. That was just a crappy call by the umpire.

and the two walks...umpire too.. I guess....being enamored of Arrieta's stuff does not make him a good pitcher...He is still a AAA pitcher at this point....he will have occasional good starts and starts where he will lose the games singlehandedly.

Buck can now see the Orioles I have been watching all year...I was wondering where they had gone there for a few games...

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Hank Scorpio Hangout Grand Counsel

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and the two walks...umpire too.. I guess....being enamored of Arrieta's stuff does not make him a good pitcher...He is still a AAA pitcher at this point....he will have occasional good starts and starts where he will lose the games singlehandedly.

Buck can now see the Orioles I have been watching all year...I was wondering where they had gone there for a few games...

What about Justin Masterson? What do you think of him?

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That's how I'd handle it too, have someone up in the bullpen just in case.

Composure could have been regained if it was going to be somewhere in the inning itself....nope I would replace him to begin to let these young pitchers know that results are what matter...not your feelings or your "composure"..

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One thing's for sure...both of these teams are pretty equally awful....

Well there isn't one guy on their starting 9 that I would want on the O's with the exception of their SS. Tell me one guy they have that could be considered a core piece? We at least have 5 guys to build around. We are young so our core is up and down right now but I would take the O's every day of the week over the Indians.

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