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I am guessing that if they could have added Dempster, or Lee or someone that had value in excess of $3mm for 12 starts or so then $3 million wouldn't have held up the deal. Point being, I think it is fairly clear that if $$$ was the issue that killed the deal, then DD didn't believe Blanton was worth it. I am as anti-Owner Angelos as they come and I am certain he wasn't the issue nor was the issue simply spending an additional $3mm.

This issue was spending $3mm for Joe Blanton

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History speaks volumes and the orioles haven't done anything to make me feel differently.....The leaset that a Blanton trade does is instill confidence in the fan base that you are willing to do what it takes to win. I know many people will debate if he can pitch in the AL east but the very least that he does is give us a reliable starter at the end of our rotation. You never know what you're going to get from Tillman, Britton, Gonzales, Hunter, Arrieta and Britton. Spending money on Jones has nothing to with this...once his big $$ kick in other contracts will be coming off of the books.

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I am guessing that if they could have added Dempster, or Lee or someone that had value in excess of $3mm for 12 starts or so then $3 million wouldn't have held up the deal. Point being, I think it is fairly clear that if $$$ was the issue that killed the deal, then DD didn't believe Blanton was worth it. I am as anti-Owner Angelos as they come and I am certain he wasn't the issue nor was the issue simply spending an additional $3mm.

This issue was spending $3mm for Joe Blanton

I see no way the O's would have picked up Cliff Lee unless the Phils picked up alot of his salary. He is owed 25 mil over the next three years and has a 12.5 million buyout option at age 37. The Rangers did not want that contract either.

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History speaks volumes and the orioles haven't done anything to make me feel differently.....The leaset that a Blanton trade does is instill confidence in the fan base that you are willing to do what it takes to win. I know many people will debate if he can pitch in the AL east but the very least that he does is give us a reliable starter at the end of our rotation. You never know what you're going to get from Tillman' date=' Britton, Gonzales, Hunter, Arrieta and Britton. Spending money on Jones has nothing to with this...once his big $$ kick in other contracts will be coming off of the books.[/quote']

Blanton is a fifth starter on a team with many fifth starters. His ERA in the East would fit in with Hunter and Natusz Would the average fan be excoted by Joe Blanton? i know they were excited by Jim Thome but that is because they recognize the name.

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I see no way the O's would have picked up Cliff Lee unless the Phils picked up alot of his salary. He is owed 25 mil over the next three years and has a 12.5 million buyout option at age 37. The Rangers did not want that contract either.

I don't disagree, I used Lee to emphasize the point.. my point is that for the right player $3mm would have been spent. Joe Blanton was not the right player. So to me, drawing conclusions about the tightness of the Orioles' pocketbooks because they didn't want to spend $3mm on 8-12 starts from Joe Blanton is foolish...

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As Orioles fans, we're never NOT concerned about something. There's plenty to be concerned about.

If you want to get upset that rumors that Angelos stood in the way of getting Joe Blanton, so be it. I think there's more to it and I think Duquette has earned the benefit of doubt.

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I think tke Phillies will have more payroll issues then the O's. Cliff Lee contract:

2013 34 Philadelphia Phillies $25,000,000

2014 35 Philadelphia Phillies $25,000,000

2015 36 Philadelphia Phillies $25,000,000

2016 37 Philadelphia Phillies *$27,500,000 $27.5M Vesting Option, $12.5M Buyout option becomes guaranteed with 200 IP in 2015 or 400 IP in 2014-15

No one wanted to pick him up for that price. The Rollins contract is also a bad one. The Phillies have so much money invested in pitching.

They already owe Papelbon, Lee, and Howard $63M for 2015.

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The Orioles were interested in him if he was available on the cheap. The Phillies weren't willing to pick up enough $$$$ that made the Orioles comfortable. This had nothing to do with Angelos or the players involved. the Orioles weren't going to be giving up anyone of value. This all came down to not wanting to pay for Blanton's contract. Draw your own conclusions.

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Blanton is a fifth starter on a team with many fifth starters. His ERA in the East would fit in with Hunter and Natusz Would the average fan be excoted by Joe Blanton? i know they were excited by Jim Thome but that is because they recognize the name.

I think the average fan would be the most excited...knowledgeable fans are the one's picking him apart....I personally just wanted to see them do something was worth it. I'm 30 years old and haven't experienced a winning baseball team since I was 14 show me your willing to do what it take to win. I would have loved to see Hunter Pence here...the Giants didn't have to give up much to get him.

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I think the average fan would be the most excited...knowledgeable fans are the one's picking him apart....I personally just wanted to see them do something was worth it. I'm 30 years old and haven't experienced a winning baseball team since I was 14 show me your willing to do what it take to win. I would have loved to see Hunter Pence here...the Giants didn't have to give up much to get him.

The Giants gave up a catching prospect that profiles as a potential 25 HR player in the bigs, what comparable piece did we have to offer that would have matched (or exceeded) that in addition to the 2 other players included in the package.

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The Orioles were interested in him if he was available on the cheap. The Phillies weren't willing to pick up enough $$$$ that made the Orioles comfortable. This had nothing to do with Angelos or the players involved. the Orioles weren't going to be giving up anyone of value. This all came down to not wanting to pay for Blanton's contract. Draw your own conclusions.

Tony ...I agree with you to a point ...But when trading these days the team sending out the veteran player either wants to dump salary or receive value. The Orioles seem to have wanted Blanton (without most of his salary) and without giving up much to get him.

You cant have your cake & eat it too!

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