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Roll Tide Hangout Grand Counsel

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I am guessing that if they could have added Dempster, or Lee or someone that had value in excess of $3mm for 12 starts or so then $3 million wouldn't have held up the deal. Point being, I think it is fairly clear that if $$$ was the issue that killed the deal, then DD didn't believe Blanton was worth it. I am as anti-Owner Angelos as they come and I am certain he wasn't the issue nor was the issue simply spending an additional $3mm.

This issue was spending $3mm for Joe Blanton

Compare Dempsters rest of the season in the East to what Blanton does the rest of the way. I bet you will find its comparable.

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The Orioles were interested in him if he was available on the cheap. The Phillies weren't willing to pick up enough $$$$ that made the Orioles comfortable. This had nothing to do with Angelos or the players involved. the Orioles weren't going to be giving up anyone of value. This all came down to not wanting to pay for Blanton's contract. Draw your own conclusions.

I get the impression that as a business executive, DD is very much interested in cost-benefit analysis, and he seems to have made an analysis in this situation and stuck to the results.

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I did a public opinion poll of myself and yesterday marked Duquette's highest favorability ratings and confidence levels in months.

My only real criticism is that I am not sure why so much time and effort was spent on Joe Blanton. I would have liked to have seen a trade for Headley but of course I can't criticize credibly without knowing (for sure) what it would have taken to acquire him

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My only real criticism is that I am not sure why so much time and effort was spent on Joe Blanton. I would have liked to have seen a trade for Headley but of course I can't criticize credibly without knowing (for sure) what it would have taken to acquire him

Based on what DD said last night during the telecast, if we would've landed Blanton, I think we would've then felt comfortable enough to flip a starter and another piece to SD for Headley.

I don't have the exact transcript handy but DD said that the if the deal for the pitcher would've went through, they then had a deal in place for a bat.

I guess having a solid #5 like Blanton would've created enough depth from which to trade one of our young-ish starters, who are essentially #5's right now? Again, this is just deductive reasoning on my part.

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Based on what DD said last night during the telecast, if we would've landed Blanton, I think we would've then felt comfortable enough to flip a starter and another piece to SD for Headley.

I don't have the exact transcript handy but DD said that the if the deal for the pitcher would've went through, they then had a deal in place for a bat.

I guess having a solid #5 like Blanton would've created enough depth from which to trade one of our young-ish starters, who are essentially #5's right now? Again, this is just deductive reasoning on my part.

Yeah.. I read that as well and if this is the case than I get it. I just didn't assume that Headley was the bat he was after... Tho it could have been.

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Yeah.. I read that as well and if this is the case than I get it. I just didn't assume that Headley was the bat he was after... Tho it could have been.
I doubt it was Headley. Duq XM the other day siad he heard SD was asking two of our SP, Arrieta and Britton, plus prospects. It might have been Pence.
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Yeah.. I read that as well and if this is the case than I get it. I just didn't assume that Headley was the bat he was after... Tho it could have been.

Yeah, I'm taking a bit of leap but given the report about Arrieta being the centerpiece of the deal to SD for Headley, I think it's a fair conclusion to draw. At the end of the day of course, it's all speculation.

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But let's get real. We have 0% chance of catching the Yankees this year no matter what deal we pull off. So we trade away players who can help us in the future for a slim chance of making a WC slot, where we have to play a one game play-in game before we even get to the real play-offs? I think that sitting on our hands at the deadline was a smart move. I'm also happy that we weren't sellers. I think that we have a shot at cracking .500. It's not a good enough reason to trade away for players, but it's a valid reason to not sell off pieces.

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But let's get real. We have 0% chance of catching the Yankees this year no matter what deal we pull off. So we trade away players who can help us in the future for a slim chance of making a WC slot, where we have to play a one game play-in game before we even get to the real play-offs? I think that sitting on our hands at the deadline was a smart move. I'm also happy that we weren't sellers. I think that we have a shot at cracking .500. It's not a good enough reason to trade away for players, but it's a valid reason to not sell off pieces.

Hey, let's not undersell the team. According to BP's playoff odds report the O's have a 0.5% chance of catching the Yankees for the division title.

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Not because he's an ace, though I think he would have helped more than some suggest. But, because money seemed to have held this up. We may finish at or above .500, and that's great. But those expecting PA to open the checkbook next year to build off that is setting themselves up for even more heartache. By not shelling out a little to get Blanton, says alot. This should atleast extinguish any Zach Grienke rumors before they even hit the HO this winter though. Or any thoughts of the O's going after any premium FA for that matter.

Couldn't disagree more. Blanton is the type of move we would have seen in the past. This team is out playing anyone's expectations. They're doing without any flashy off-season pickups. They're doing it as a team. I do not see ANYTHING wrong with DD not wanting to pay $3M to Joe Blanton for a few months of service here. That $3M can go toward another piece in the off season. Opening up the checkbook and signing Adam Jones long term was a statement. I, as well as a lot of other O's fans, can't wait to see what happens in the off season following the performance of this surprise team.

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Tony ...I agree with you to a point ...But when trading these days the team sending out the veteran player either wants to dump salary or receive value. The Orioles seem to have wanted Blanton (without most of his salary) and without giving up much to get him.

You cant have your cake & eat it too!

If I made it a point, I didn't mean too. I was just passing on info I heard. It does seem like the Orioles wanted Blanton on the cheap and without giving up any talent. That's a tough way to do business unless the Orioles felt he was going to be DFA'd soon. Maybe Duquette just had second thoughts on how Blanton would perform in the AL East.

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