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I am on the complete other side of the spectrum on the issue from Weams.

I respect your opinion. I do not think the Orioles Front Office is close to disfunctional. You know I blame agents and advisors in the international market place.

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He signed in Japan? Was it for as much as the O's offered? Was there a lengthy break from the time of the failed deal with the O's to the deal he signed in Japan?

You are testing my memory.

I didn't recall a figure but I can't imagine it was for what the O's had signed him for. Better then not playing at all which was his other option.

He didn't play organized ball at all last year. He signed the deal in the offseason.

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I respect your opinion. I do not think the Orioles Front Office is close to disfunctional. You know I blame agents and advisors in the international market place.

I wasn't suggesting otherwise, I was just pointing out that on this one topic (Baltimore's forays into the Korean talent pool), our views are greatly different.

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This is harsh but.... tough crap. :noidea: Sorry buddy. [it] happens.

Shortsighted, too, scott. If we want to project a positive image in other markets we can't just say "tough crap" when we blatantly violate protocol as if there are no consequences. If we don't care about acquiring talent in other markets then by all means have at it.

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I respect your opinion. I do not think the Orioles Front Office is close to disfunctional. You know I blame agents and advisors in the international market place.

I agree with this but DD has some culpability for the people he hires.

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Shortsighted, too, scott. If we want to project a positive image in other markets we can't just say "tough crap" when we blatantly violate protocol as if there are no consequences. If we don't care about acquiring talent in other markets then by all means have at it.

I'm separating the two. We of course need to respect other markets. I believe it really was DD shaking the rust off, not a blatant attempt to manipulate the market. Just a mistake.

The tough crap is for the player. It's a shame but the club has to move on with it's goals. Machiavelli.

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I'm separating the two. We of course need to respect other markets. I believe it really was DD shaking the rust off, not a blatant attempt to manipulate the market. Just a mistake.

The tough crap is for the player. It's a shame but the club has to move on with it's goals. Machiavelli.

And I agree it wasn't intentional, but we could have jeopardized a players ability to earn. Granted I don't think he has much of a future but if the proper channels were taken the kid would have been paid his money and we would have probably wound up with a sunk cost into a bad prospect due to poor info. Not the kid's fault.

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And I agree it wasn't intentional, but we could have jeopardized a players ability to earn. Granted I don't think he has much of a future but if the proper channels were taken the kid would have been paid his money and we would have probably wound up with a sunk cost into a bad prospect due to poor info. Not the kid's fault.

I forget now. We did offer him a crazy amount of money, right?

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I have no problem with the Korean incident. It shows me a good aggressive attitude on DD's part. AM's methodical plodding style be damned. I've always said that if you don't mess up once in a while, you're not trying hard enough.

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I have no problem with the Korean incident. It shows me a good aggressive attitude on DD's part. AM's methodical plodding style be damned. I've always said that if you don't mess up once in a while, you're not trying hard enough.

Completely agree. DD has proven that he's got a great eye for talent and many of his low risk signings have paid huge dividends. Do people really prefer the methodical ultra conservative style of MacPhail better? If DD was GM I bet our chances of signing Sano would have been much better.

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Which makes you wonder if he was still switch hitting during his last season (2010) playing in Cuba. I'd certainly be interested in knowing more about this.

If I were to speculate I would say that he was a switch hitter due to team direction not personal preference.

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