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Gomes compares Gausman to Verlander after facing Gausman.

"A young guy like that who throws 98 and can throw his off-speed stuff for strikes " forget about it," Gomes said.

Well, Jonny, scouts say that while Gausman?s changeup is nasty, his slider is a work in progress "

"He doesn?t need it to be good," Gomes interrupted. "If you?ve got three plus-plus pitches, now you?re Verlander. You should be OK with a little less than Verlander."

http://nmsn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/baltimore-orioles-have-abundance-of-starting-pitchers-giving-them-built-in-flexibility-031913

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We talked about this last week and I said lets see how Gausman is doing after three or four more appearances. If I'm Buck i'm liking him too much to send to Bowie or Norfolk and would start the season with him. We all know the hitters struggle in April due to the cold weather in most places. The hitters are wearing extra layers and him throwing upper 90's and mixing with pitches in the low 80's will make it extremely difficult for hitters to make contact and his K's should continue to be high. His line yesterday against Bostons regulars was 2 innings, 0 hits, 0 walks, 0 runs and 3 k's. We need to get off to a good start in April. Has anyone noticed the box scores lately for the NYY? They are struggling to score runs and getting very few hits. Anemic lineup currently?

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Trying not to get hopes too high....trying not to get hopes too high....

This. I was positive that Matusz, Britton, Tillman, Arrieta, and Bergman would be our rotation for years.

I've accepted that I don't know a damn thing and that I should just let it play out.

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I've only seen Gausman pitch "live" in his spring start last Thursday and the movement on his fastball and Change are just down right filthy. If his slider develops into a pitch he can throw for strikes and keep it down in the zone, he'll be a TOR for us, no doubt.

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This. I was positive that Matusz, Britton, Tillman, Arrieta, and Bergman would be our rotation for years.

I've accepted that I don't know a damn thing and that I should just let it play out.

Well, you should have never had much faith in Dave Bergman as a starter. He was a left-handed hitting outfielder/first baseman first. :D

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I've been wanting to make the Verlander comp for a little while, but I've been waiting for someone else to beat me to it. Man, that would be such a shot in the arm for us (captain obvious).

I think it should be clear that Gomes was saying Gausman would be comparable to Verlander if he had a plus-plus curve, which he doesn't. His fastball and change are comparable, and Gomes was saying that's enough by itself to make him effective, but he ain't Verlander without a good third pitch.

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Well, you should have never had much faith in Dave Bergman as a starter. He was a left-handed hitting outfielder/first baseman first. :D

I didn't think Brad Bergesen would stick too long, but i did have good hopes for John Maine. Wasn't too happy we traded him to the Mets along with Julio for one healthy season from Kris Benson.

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I think it should be clear that Gomes was saying Gausman would be comparable to Verlander if he had a plus-plus curve, which he doesn't. His fastball and change are comparable, and Gomes was saying that's enough by itself to make him effective, but he ain't Verlander without a good third pitch.

Yes. He was saying that only "Verlander" have three Plus-Plus pitches. And it does not take that to be a good starter in the ML. He is saying that Gausman has two Plus Pluses right now.

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