What.. the.. Buck..

[Guest]

Yes, keeping the guy who led the league in saves last year, is leading the league again this year, as the closer is something NOOOOOOOOOO other manager in baseball would do.

LOL Jim Johnson only leads the league is saves cause he gets more chances. Put Greg Holland on this team and we're in first place.

[Guest]

Yes, keeping the guy who led the league in saves last year, is leading the league again this year, as the closer is something NOOOOOOOOOO other manager in baseball would do.

Jim is a pitch to contact closer. Last year his only good stat was BABIP and in 2013 that has come back to earth that's why we are seeing all these blown saves.

[Pickles]

LOL Jim Johnson only leads the league is saves cause he gets more chances. Put Greg Holland on this team and we're in first place.

Nobody is saying JJ is pitching well this year.

But he hasn't been this walking ball of incompetence so many are pretending.

I don't think there's a manager in baseball who would have replaced him as the closer of this club.

So whining cause Buck hasn't done it, and suggesting we could/should replace him, is RIDICULOUS.

Some people always need their scapegoat.

It's natural, but it doesn't make it any less stupid.

[Guest]

Nobody is saying JJ is pitching well this year.

But he hasn't been this walking ball of incompetence so many are pretending.

I don't think there's a manager in baseball who would have replaced him as the closer of this club.

So whining cause Buck hasn't done it, and suggesting we could/should replace him, is RIDICULOUS.

Some people always need their scapegoat.

It's natural, but it doesn't make it any less stupid.

No i think must teams in a playoff hunt would make a move at closer.

[Pickles]

Jim is a pitch to contact closer. Last year his only good stat was BABIP and in 2013 that has come back to earth that's why we are seeing all these blown saves.

JJ has a career era puching 140+ over 6 season in the league.

Even this year, going into tonight, it was at 128.

To suggest that the reason JJ is a viable closer on this team is because he had good BABIP #s last year shows a profound misunderstand of baseball.

[Pickles]

No i think must teams in a playoff hunt would make a move at closer.

So you think most teams would have replaced a closer leading the league in saves for the last 2 years, with an era+ of almost 130??

Again, profound misunderstand of baseball is on display here.

[Guest]

So you think most teams would have replaced a closer leading the league in saves for the last 2 years, with an era+ of almost 130??

Again, profound misunderstand of baseball is on display here.

Once again 9 of Jim Johnson 39 saves are quality saves. O'day Hunter or KROD could be doing what Jim Johnson is doing.

[Pickles]

Once again 9 of Jim Johnson 39 saves are quality saves. O'day Hunter or KROD could be doing what Jim Johnson is doing.

Well, I don't disagree there.

And guess what they'd be doing as well as JJ: blowing saves too.

Changing JJ for Hunter wouldn't change much at all.

[Brooks The Great]

So you think most teams would have replaced a closer leading the league in saves for the last 2 years, with an era+ of almost 130??

Again, profound misunderstand of baseball is on display here.

So when K-Rod is made the closer soon, will your arguments justifying Johnson as closer all season suddenly be incorrect? Honest question.

[Pickles]

So when K-Rod is made the closer soon, will your arguments justifying Johnson as closer all season suddenly be incorrect? Honest question.

So when should JJ have been replaced? After his first blown save?

[Brooks The Great]

So when should JJ have been replaced? After his first blown save?

I would have replaced him after blown save #4, the loss against Toronto on May 26th. On this board, I said that he should have been given an extended break until he righted himself. In Buck's shoes, given Buck never gave him a break and JJ did indeed right the ship for a month, I would have then permanently replaced him after blown save #6, the devastating loss against the Yankees on July 5th.

[Guest]

So when should JJ have been replaced? After his first blown save?

I say after Giants game. You cant trust Jim Johnson in a 1 run game no more.

[El Gordo]

6 hits and 3 R, that's not an offense getting the job done. One more R and JJ gets save 40. Yeah he sucked tonight, but so did everybody not named Davis, Hardy, and Roberts.

[LA2]

You're correct.

As so many managers proved before winning here in Baltimore under Peter Angelos is the easiest thing in the world.

Like I said, I hope we fire Buck tonight, because his press conferences aren't up to snuff. Forget winning and losing. I want players ripped in the press every time they fail. That's what makes a good manager.

Yes, exactly. Where's Bobby Valentine when we need him?!!!!

[Pickles]

So for all the "resonable", "rationale" posters who think they're making legitimate criticisms of Buck and JJ tell me this:

You do realize that JJ, since the blown save in Tor. May 26, has pitch 29.2 innings and allowed 6 ERs. For all you math majors that's an ERA below 2, and that's including tonight.

Would we really have won MORE games by replacing him with guys pitching worse than him???

HMMMMMMMM??????

Or is this yet another throw a hissy fit thread after a tough loss??

I actually don't really have problems with the various hissy fits thrown on this board except when they attempt to use their own facts (and when I'm pissed too after a tough loss).

Like I said, carry on with your pitchforks.