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Even worse. So, how does adding a 2 win DH turn a 70-75 win team into a playoff contender?

We need more then him. You gotta start somewhere. But with this owner it's a pipe dream.

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Everyone that wants to come at me please just answer me this?

93 and 85 win seasons. Please tell me another team that cuts payroll by 10m? That's has it's own TV network and has a place like Camden Yards?

I really don't see us making another move are you guys happy with a 81m payroll?

Most Owners would add payroll and go for it.

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We need more then him. You gotta start somewhere. But with this owner it's a pipe dream.

Which is something that everyone else realizes. It's like we're having separate conversations. Most people are tired of repeating the same old line about how the owner sucks. They realize it's more fun to discuss what could reasonably be done, instead of living in a fantasy world.

Also, if you think we're a 70-75 win team now, then you must have thought a lot more of Feldman, JJ and McLouth than everyone else who has ever existed thought of them. Combined, last year, they might have given us 4-5 wins. Throwing the people we have in house out there should give us 1-2 wins. So, in reality, we're probably a little better than .500.

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Everyone that wants to come at me please just answer me this?

93 and 85 win seasons. Please tell me another team that cuts payroll by 10m? That's has it's own TV network and has a place like Camden Yards?

I really don't see us making another move are you guys happy with a 81m payroll?

Most Owners would add payroll and go for it.

For the final time, and then I'm just going to assume you're trolling, NOBODY is in favor of a $81M payroll. The difference is we're all tired of hearing the same thing over and over. We have moved past the whining about it.

Do you know why we have? Because it doesn't affect ANYTHING.

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For the final time, and then I'm just going to assume you're trolling, NOBODY is in favor of a $81M payroll. The difference is we're all tired of hearing the same thing over and over. We have moved past the whining about it.

Do you know why we have? Because it doesn't affect ANYTHING.

I am in favor of a 125 million dollar payroll. And your assumption would be correct if he is assuming that anyone here wants a sub 100 million dollar payroll.

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For the final time, and then I'm just going to assume you're trolling, NOBODY is in favor of a $81M payroll. The difference is we're all tired of hearing the same thing over and over. We have moved past the whining about it.

Do you know why we have? Because it doesn't affect ANYTHING.

Then why does everyone pick apart players like Morales? This guy would help us a lot. Don't give me that War crap. Davis was never above 1.3 until last year.

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Then why does everyone pick apart players like Morales? This guy would help us a lot. Don't give me that War crap. Davis was never above 1.3 until last year.

You can call it crap if you want, but that just shows your lack of understanding. The only thing Morales gives you is a decent bat. He gives you no defensive value, and no baserunning value. He's negative in those aspects. He also costs a pick. Since you claim that we're a 70-75 win team, giving up a pick for a DH seems like a terrible move, right? It hurts the future and makes us almost a .500 team.

Also, Davis never had any reason to be above 1.3 WAR until last year. He didn't get on base, he provided negative defensive value. The only thing he did was hit HR. Last year he learned to take walks, increased his power even more, and played decent defense.

Just how much do you think Morales would help?

Alternatively, do you think everyone else is just making arguments against Cruz and Morales because we want to make sure Pete holds onto a lot more money? Come on, use your brain.

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You can call it crap if you want, but that just shows your lack of understanding. The only thing Morales gives you is a decent bat. He gives you no defensive value, and no baserunning value. He's negative in those aspects. He also costs a pick. Since you claim that we're a 70-75 win team, giving up a pick for a DH seems like a terrible move, right? It hurts the future and makes us almost a .500 team.

Also, Davis never had any reason to be above 1.3 WAR until last year. He didn't get on base, he provided negative defensive value. The only thing he did was hit HR. Last year he learned to take walks, increased his power even more, and played decent defense.

Just how much do you think Morales would help?

Alternatively, do you think everyone else is just making arguments against Cruz and Morales because we want to make sure Pete holds onto a lot more money? Come on, use your brain.

I would love for Peter to flush that money down the toilet rather than keep it. I just don't think that paying for his absolute ceiling WAR and then giving away our pick is wise. I just don't. I think that if Peter does not spend 100 million on our team he should be forced to double the difference in a charitable contribution.

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Though critics were horrified by the deal, Ryan Howard was all smiles when the Phillies offered him a five-year contract extension worth $125 million. Instead of waiting until the end of his contract, which expired after 2011, the Phillies locked up their aging slugger early in 2010.

This move became a case of how not to manage a franchise’s money. Age and injury caught up with Howard quickly, making the deal a major black eye for Phillies GM Ruben Amaro. Philadelphia still owes Howard $25 million per year through 2016 for what is likely going to be average production.

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As a member of the Toronto Blue Jays, A.J. Burnett made mincemeat of mighty Yankees lineups. When it came time for Burnett to hit free agency, it coincided with the Yankees opening their new stadium after missing the playoffs for the first time in 14 years. The Yankees pounced, inking the right hander to a five-year, $82.5 million deal.

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The signing of Barry Zito may have sounded good in theory, but few baseball minds thought the southpaw was worth $126 million over the course of seven years. The Giants were dismayed early and often by Zito’s performance, though the lefty did contribute to one World Series win for San Francisco. ... In 208 appearances, Zito went 63-80 with an ugly 4.62 earned-run average.

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This may turn out to be the worst contract of all time when it terminates after the 2021 season.

Four years for $40 million doesn’t sound like an awful contract. However, the Yankees got next to nothing from the underachieving, tabloid-starring whipping boy that was Carl Pavano in pinstripes. Pavano was victimized by one curious injury after another while under contract for New York, with a buttocks injury keeping him out of the rotation at one point.

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The right hander pitched just 145 innings in 26 appearances over four seasons for the Yankees. That amounts to $273,972 per inning.

After signing a contract worth $125 million over five years, Josh Hamilton hit a career-worst .250 with just 21 home runs in 2013.

At 10 years and $275 million, there was really no way the Yankees could have gotten their money’s worth from the ill-advised contract they dished out to Alex Rodriguez at age 32. A-Rod went from MVP to PR nightmare for the Yankees

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Yeah, I kind of knew all along you were a troll.

Call me what you want. Sorry i want this team to go for it now. Cause in 2 years it's gonna be ugly.

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