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Dan Duquette can't get the financial go-ahead from owner Peter Angelos to meet Morales' asking price


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I don't think Peter Angelos knows anyone on this team other than Nick and Adam. Well maybe he knows about that guy who hit the homers. The guy Scott keeps calling him about.

Yes, but I suspect Potter still knows how to deal with legal documents, (i.e. contracts) brought to him by his employees (i.e. GMs). Particularly ones that have other of his employees, i.e. medical staff's opinions attached to them. The names really don't make much difference to Potter, I agree (particularly since Brian Roberts is gone). It is just the way he has always worked, a lawyer is a lawyer is a lawyer.

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So you think that the ONLY players Duquette wanted to sign this offseason were Webb and Balfour? So that once Balfour fell through the cracks there was NOBODY ELSE that Duquette thought was worthwhile to spend the money on?

If so, that's pretty dumb strategy on Duquette's part, don't you think? Trading your closer on the belief that you'll be able to sign Grant Balfour, and only Grant Balfour, with no plan B in case something goes wrong?

Isn't it more likely that Duquette had plenty of plan B's, but all of them were shot down by the man upstairs in the end?

I think that was his specific plan for the bullpen.

What other relief pitcher would you have liked him to sign after the Balfour deal fell through?

Well without any, you know proof, of PA waking up and suddenly vetoing deals now that the O's are winning again I am going to assume that there are other reasons for the lack of interest in the other players. (Arroyo and Burnett were pursued btw) Things like giving up the draft pick and players wanting three year deals.

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Yes, but I suspect Potter still knows how to deal with legal documents, (i.e. contracts) brought to him by his employees (i.e. GMs). Particularly ones that have other of his employees, i.e. medical staff's opinions attached to them. The names really don't make much difference to Potter, I agree (particularly since Brian Roberts is gone). It is just the way he has always worked, a lawyer is a lawyer is a lawyer.

Do you think he has to sign them? Or do you think an EVP can?

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It's true. They can. Even Kevin Gregg.

Except that our closer failed to save 84% in 7 of the last 16 years (and one of the worst failures was Gregg):

2013: 85% (Johnson, 50-9)

2012: 94% (Johnson, 51-3)

2011: 76% (Gregg, 22-7)

2010: 81% (Simon, 17-4)

2009: 87% (Sherrill, 20-3)

2008: 84% (Sherrill, 31-6)

2007: 80% (Ray, 16-4)

2006: 87% (Ray, 33-5)

2005: 88% (Ryan, 36-5)

2004: 85% (Julio, 22-4)

2003: 82% (Julio, 36-8)

2002: 81% (Julio, 25-6)

2001: 85% (Groom, 11-2)

2000: 73% (Timlin, 11-4)

1999: 75% (Timlin, 27-9)

1998: 85% (Benitez, 22-4)

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Do you think he has to sign them? Or do you think an EVP can?

I think the EVP knows what he can and cannot do.. though at times that might be a bit of a moving expectation depending on how it works out PR wise. And that the EVP knows pretty clearly who signs his paycheck.

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Except that our closer failed to save 84% in 7 of the last 16 years (and one of the worst failures was Gregg):

2013: 85% (Johnson, 50-9)

2012: 94% (Johnson, 51-3)

2011: 76% (Gregg, 22-7)

2010: 81% (Simon, 17-4)

2009: 87% (Sherrill, 20-3)

2008: 84% (Sherrill, 31-6)

2007: 80% (Ray, 16-4)

2006: 87% (Ray, 33-5)

2005: 88% (Ryan, 36-5)

2004: 85% (Julio, 22-4)

2003: 82% (Julio, 36-8)

2002: 81% (Julio, 25-6)

2001: 85% (Groom, 11-2)

2000: 73% (Timlin, 11-4)

1999: 75% (Timlin, 27-9)

1998: 85% (Benitez, 22-4)

Can, as in is capable of. Just by this list you can see where Sherril, Ray and Julio were capable. Gregg exceeded 85% last season with the Cubs.

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Can, as in is capable of. Just by this list you can see where Sherril, Ray and Julio were capable. Gregg exceeded 85% last season with the Cubs.

I can hit a baseball out of Camden Yards.

I guess we should trade Davis and put me in at first.

We'd save a lot of money.

And I can hit a homerun.

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I think the EVP knows what he can and cannot do.. though at times that might be a bit of a moving expectation depending on how it works out PR wise. And that the EVP knows pretty clearly who signs his paycheck.

Through 2018. In doing the autopsy of the Koji deal, it appeared that Andy MacPhail could not complete it unless he traded off 2 million dollars in obligation. It was essentially an athletic dude's dream three way. Derrek Lee to Pittsburgh. Cash to Andy. Koji and cash to Texas, Chris Davis and Tommy Hunter to the Orioles. Nowhere in that equation did we ever hear Angelos' name mentioned. Andy knew his budget, had to find the money. Did. And dealt.

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Can you hit one out of OPACY against MLB off speed pitching?

If not your point is invalid before I even start arguing against it.

It's not a point anyway. It is a belief of many that any major league relief pitcher is essentially interchangeable from year to year. They are wildly inconsistent. Except for Mariano Rivera. Really. He's the only one ever that isn't. Wildly. Inconsistent. And certainly over a five year period, the names at the top are not even similar.

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Except that our closer failed to save 84% in 7 of the last 16 years (and one of the worst failures was Gregg):

2013: 85% (Johnson, 50-9)

2012: 94% (Johnson, 51-3)

2011: 76% (Gregg, 22-7)

2010: 81% (Simon, 17-4)

2009: 87% (Sherrill, 20-3)

2008: 84% (Sherrill, 31-6)

2007: 80% (Ray, 16-4)

2006: 87% (Ray, 33-5)

2005: 88% (Ryan, 36-5)

2004: 85% (Julio, 22-4)

2003: 82% (Julio, 36-8)

2002: 81% (Julio, 25-6)

2001: 85% (Groom, 11-2)

2000: 73% (Timlin, 11-4)

1999: 75% (Timlin, 27-9)

1998: 85% (Benitez, 22-4)

If you go by the 84% for the three run save, it certainly going to be less for a one run save. Don't you have to evaluate the success rate for the number of one, two or three run saves each closer had in each season?

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