Trade Schoop?

[Redskins Rick]

Zach's older brother?

I'd be more interested in seeing if Zach can play second, at least we know he can hit at the MLB level.

I was making a joke, did you see the ":)"

[Can_of_corn]

I was making a joke, did you see the ":)"

That would be why I countered with the idea of Zach playing second. Since his 8 AB prove nothing.

[quidam]

It must be the offseason on the OH when an opinion that is different from the masses is met with comments like "Go get educated and come back." and "Maybe we can dump him with Tillman, Norris, Hardy, Britton, and Pearce."

There are logical reasons to use Schoop in a trade. First, his value seems to be tied to his defense. If he continues to grow he will be too big for 2nd base. Will his bat play at other positions?

Schoop is on a team that struggles with obp. A side of Schoop's game which is severely lacking. As presently constructed there are few positions that are open for improvement. Using Schoop in a trade can help change the dynamic of the team.

You can't assume that his career will see gradual improvement. Players regress and progress. He would be valuable in a trade as part of a package. Another year with similar offensive numbers and his value then plummets.

[Can_of_corn]

It must be the offseason on the OH when an opinion that is different from the masses is met with comments like "Go get educated and come back." and "Maybe we can dump him with Tillman, Norris, Hardy, Britton, and Pearce."

There are logical reasons to use Schoop in a trade. First, his value seems to be tied to his defense. If he continues to grow he will be too big for 2nd base. Will his bat play at other positions?

Schoop is on a team that struggles with obp. A side of Schoop's game which is severely lacking. As presently constructed there are few positions that are open for improvement. Using Schoop in a trade can help change the dynamic of the team.

You can't assume that his career will see gradual improvement. Players regress and progress. He would be valuable in a trade as part of a package. Another year with similar offensive numbers and his value then plummets.

Yea you pretty much can assume it. Not even counting the factors I quoted from the rotographs piece if you look at players who made their full season debut at the age of 22 in most cases those players substantially improved over the next few years.

Now we can't guarantee it, but I feel pretty secure in assuming it.

Of course even if he is totally stagnant in his value going forward you can do a lot worse then 1.6 WAR for 500 K.

[Redskins Rick]

It must be the offseason on the OH when an opinion that is different from the masses is met with comments like "Go get educated and come back." and "Maybe we can dump him with Tillman, Norris, Hardy, Britton, and Pearce."

There are logical reasons to use Schoop in a trade. First, his value seems to be tied to his defense. If he continues to grow he will be too big for 2nd base. Will his bat play at other positions?

Schoop is on a team that struggles with obp. A side of Schoop's game which is severely lacking. As presently constructed there are few positions that are open for improvement. Using Schoop in a trade can help change the dynamic of the team.

You can't assume that his career will see gradual improvement. Players regress and progress. He would be valuable in a trade as part of a package. Another year with similar offensive numbers and his value then plummets.

I have a problem with your statement.

Struggles with OBP?

Really, you do realize the team was 6th in MLB with OPS amd 5th in OBP?

[weams]

I get the upside of Schoop. What are you all going to say if he doesn't improve next year?

Something different. At the trade deadline. It took Alex Gordon five years and getting moved to Left Field to be any good also.

[weams]

It must be the offseason on the OH when an opinion that is different from the masses is met with comments like "Go get educated and come back." and "Maybe we can dump him with Tillman, Norris, Hardy, Britton, and Pearce."

There are logical reasons to use Schoop in a trade. First, his value seems to be tied to his defense. If he continues to grow he will be too big for 2nd base. Will his bat play at other positions?

Schoop is on a team that struggles with obp. A side of Schoop's game which is severely lacking. As presently constructed there are few positions that are open for improvement. Using Schoop in a trade can help change the dynamic of the team.

You can't assume that his career will see gradual improvement. Players regress and progress. He would be valuable in a trade as part of a package. Another year with similar offensive numbers and his value then plummets.

I have a problem with your statement.

Struggles with OBP?

Really, you do realize the team was 6th in MLB with OPS amd 5th in OBP?

It's a meme. The Orioles need to be blown up because they are slow and do not get on base. Especially they do not take walks, because they hit the ball too much. Or they strikeout. And they are not in the World Series. Or something.

[weams]

Guy named Britton in the minors.

He might replace Flaherty if Flaherty wins a job.

[Can_of_corn]

I have a problem with your statement.

Struggles with OBP?

Really, you do realize the team was 6th in MLB with OPS amd 5th in OBP?

ESPN says they were 17th in OBP.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/seasontype/2/sort/onBasePct/order/true

[weams]

ESPN says they were 17th in OBP.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/seasontype/2/sort/onBasePct/order/true

I see that too.

[Can_of_corn]

I see that too.

He was dead on with the OPS however. My guess is he crossed the lines Ghostbusters style.

[Redskins Rick]

ESPN says they were 17th in OBP.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/seasontype/2/sort/onBasePct/order/true

I see that too.

Strange in ESPN, I see this:

[TABLE=class: tablehead, width: 756]

<tbody>[TR=class: oddrow team-10-11]

[TD=align: left]1[/TD]

[TD=align: left]Oakland[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]47[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD]13[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]19[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD].277[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].358[/TD]

[TD].404[/TD]

[TD].763[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: evenrow team-10-19]

[TD=align: left]2[/TD]

[TD=align: left]LA Dodgers[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]137[/TD]

[TD]15[/TD]

[TD]39[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]54[/TD]

[TD]14[/TD]

[TD].285[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].351[/TD]

[TD].394[/TD]

[TD].745[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: oddrow team-10-7]

[TD=align: left]3[/TD]

[TD=align: left]Kansas City[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD]282[/TD]

[TD]42[/TD]

[TD]73[/TD]

[TD]11[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD]110[/TD]

[TD]40[/TD]

[TD].259[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].331[/TD]

[TD].390[/TD]

[TD].721[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: evenrow team-10-26]

[TD=align: left]4[/TD]

[TD=align: left]San Francisco[/TD]

[TD]10[/TD]

[TD]361[/TD]

[TD]41[/TD]

[TD]88[/TD]

[TD]12[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD]117[/TD]

[TD]37[/TD]

[TD].244[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].313[/TD]

[TD].324[/TD]

[TD].638[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: oddrow team-10-1]

[TD=align: left]5[/TD]

[TD=align: left]Baltimore[/TD]

[TD]7[/TD]

[TD]237[/TD]

[TD]33[/TD]

[TD]56[/TD]

[TD]9[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD]83[/TD]

[TD]32[/TD]

[TD].236[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].303[/TD]

[TD].350[/TD]

[TD].653[/TD]

[/TR]

</tbody>[/TABLE]

[Can_of_corn]

Strange in ESPN, I see this:

[TABLE=class: tablehead, width: 756]

<tbody>[TR=class: oddrow team-10-11]

[TD=align: left]1[/TD]

[TD=align: left]Oakland[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]47[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD]13[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]19[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD].277[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].358[/TD]

[TD].404[/TD]

[TD].763[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: evenrow team-10-19]

[TD=align: left]2[/TD]

[TD=align: left]LA Dodgers[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]137[/TD]

[TD]15[/TD]

[TD]39[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]54[/TD]

[TD]14[/TD]

[TD].285[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].351[/TD]

[TD].394[/TD]

[TD].745[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: oddrow team-10-7]

[TD=align: left]3[/TD]

[TD=align: left]Kansas City[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD]282[/TD]

[TD]42[/TD]

[TD]73[/TD]

[TD]11[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD]110[/TD]

[TD]40[/TD]

[TD].259[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].331[/TD]

[TD].390[/TD]

[TD].721[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: evenrow team-10-26]

[TD=align: left]4[/TD]

[TD=align: left]San Francisco[/TD]

[TD]10[/TD]

[TD]361[/TD]

[TD]41[/TD]

[TD]88[/TD]

[TD]12[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD]117[/TD]

[TD]37[/TD]

[TD].244[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].313[/TD]

[TD].324[/TD]

[TD].638[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: oddrow team-10-1]

[TD=align: left]5[/TD]

[TD=align: left]Baltimore[/TD]

[TD]7[/TD]

[TD]237[/TD]

[TD]33[/TD]

[TD]56[/TD]

[TD]9[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD]83[/TD]

[TD]32[/TD]

[TD].236[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].303[/TD]

[TD].350[/TD]

[TD].653[/TD]

[/TR]

</tbody>[/TABLE]

Got a link, because the one I used says something different?

[weams]

Strange in ESPN, I see this:

[TABLE=class: tablehead, width: 756]

<tbody>[TR=class: oddrow team-10-11]

[TD=align: left]1[/TD]

[TD=align: left]Oakland[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]47[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD]13[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]19[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD].277[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].358[/TD]

[TD].404[/TD]

[TD].763[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: evenrow team-10-19]

[TD=align: left]2[/TD]

[TD=align: left]LA Dodgers[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]137[/TD]

[TD]15[/TD]

[TD]39[/TD]

[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]54[/TD]

[TD]14[/TD]

[TD].285[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].351[/TD]

[TD].394[/TD]

[TD].745[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: oddrow team-10-7]

[TD=align: left]3[/TD]

[TD=align: left]Kansas City[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD]282[/TD]

[TD]42[/TD]

[TD]73[/TD]

[TD]11[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD]110[/TD]

[TD]40[/TD]

[TD].259[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].331[/TD]

[TD].390[/TD]

[TD].721[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: evenrow team-10-26]

[TD=align: left]4[/TD]

[TD=align: left]San Francisco[/TD]

[TD]10[/TD]

[TD]361[/TD]

[TD]41[/TD]

[TD]88[/TD]

[TD]12[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD]117[/TD]

[TD]37[/TD]

[TD].244[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].313[/TD]

[TD].324[/TD]

[TD].638[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR=class: oddrow team-10-1]

[TD=align: left]5[/TD]

[TD=align: left]Baltimore[/TD]

[TD]7[/TD]

[TD]237[/TD]

[TD]33[/TD]

[TD]56[/TD]

[TD]9[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]6[/TD]

[TD]83[/TD]

[TD]32[/TD]

[TD].236[/TD]

[TD=class: sortcell].303[/TD]

[TD].350[/TD]

[TD].653[/TD]

[/TR]

</tbody>[/TABLE]

Must be a playoff table.

[Can_of_corn]

Must be a playoff table.

That is it.

The default is 2014 postseason.