Trade Schoop?

[Can_of_corn]

Zobrist was a fantasy favorite of mine until this past season. Having the ability to play several positions with decent offensive production, enhanced his fantasy value.

Right but he is steadily approaching a dangerous age for baseball players.

We are not saying he isn't a fine player, but that the team that signs him next offseason might regret it.

[notyourbuddy]

Schoop's approach at the plate is not very encouraging at all. The habits he is developing don't magically disappear with age -- they get worse.

Hopefully the Os train him hard this offseason rather than treat it as a 6-month vacation because the kid's offensive game is a mess.

[DrungoHazewood]

Schoop's approach at the plate is not very encouraging at all. The habits he is developing don't magically disappear with age -- they get worse.

Why do you say that? The only offensive components that decline from an early age seem to be speed and maybe batting average. Power and plate discipline tend to gradually get better with age, usually peaking past a player's overall peak at 27. It would be fairly surprising if most aspects of Schoop's offensive game didn't improve over the next 3-5 years.

[Reboulet'sStache]

Why do you say that? The only offensive components that decline from an early age seem to be speed and maybe batting average. Power and plate discipline tend to gradually get better with age, usually peaking past a player's overall peak at 27. It would be fairly surprising if most aspects of Schoop's offensive game didn't improve over the next 3-5 years.

Seems like speed declines because players get bigger, which would make sense why power improves as well. Only problem with Schoop is he is so big now, can his frame handle 2B with an added 15 pounds? If not, would an even improved bat play at 3B?

[hoosiers]

ESPN says they were 17th in OBP.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/seasontype/2/sort/onBasePct/order/true

17th hints are near league average, but the Os obp looks worse when judged just against AL teams (DH versus pitcher hitting). The Os are 11th in the AL per same chart.

[weams]

Yeah I don't really want Zobrist. I'd love to have a Zobrist type player on this team that is capable of getting on base at that kind of clip. But he is old and already trending down.

Aren't they all. When it comes to those types.

[weams]

Seems like speed declines because players get bigger' date=' which would make sense why power improves as well. Only problem with Schoop is he is so big now, can his frame handle 2B with an added 15 pounds? If not, would an even improved bat play at 3B?[/quote']

Schoop is going to reinvent second, much like Mike Singletary did.

[brianod]

We need to keep our cheap 2b and hope he develops. We can't afford to trade him. Sign Cruz or Miller and keep Schoop

[Reboulet'sStache]

Jeff Kent played 2B. Chase Utley isn't a small guy either.

Granted I'm not the best with weight, but Utley probably filled out at probably 185 to 195. Schoop looks like he is 215 right now.

[weams]

Granted I'm not the best with weight' date=' but Utley probably filled out at probably 185 to 195. Schoop looks like he is 215 right now.[/quote']

238 lbs.

[CA-ORIOLE]

238 lbs.

Wow. That is a big boy.

[Reboulet'sStache]

238 lbs.

Wait, you mean that is where you see him eventually filling out to, or that is his current weight? If that is his current weight, I have no hope as a future carny, because I never would have guessed that was what he topped the scales at.

[weams]

Wait' date=' you mean that is where you see him eventually filling out to, or that is his current weight? If that is his current weight, I have no hope as a future carny, because I never would have guessed that was what he topped the scales at.[/quote']

He was 230 something this spring. So maybe he lost weight.

[CA-ORIOLE]

He was 230 something this spring. So maybe he lost weight.

They usually do during the season.

[El Gordo]

Kinsler is rated by the FB as the best defensive 2B. He has a DP % of .633. Schoop has a DP% of .781. He is tied with Barney for 4th with 10 RS.