Jump to content

O's 7th most valuable franchise (2013)

Russsnyder

By Russsnyder
in Orioles Talk

Recommended Posts

BradyBunch All-Star

BradyBunch

Posted
Posted
I guess by that logic if the Orioles were the Number 1 most valuable franchise it would mean we would have to slash our payroll even further. I feel so sorry for Pete. Poor guy :-(

Oh yeah.. O's really slashed payroll last year.. and the year before. O's sat at $107m in payroll last year, up $15m from the previous year.

If you are gonna look like a fool at least have some idea of what you are talking about.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 91
  • Created
  • Last Reply
Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

Can_of_corn

Posted
Posted
Oh yeah.. O's really slashed payroll last year.. and the year before. O's sat at $107m in payroll last year, up $15m from the previous year.

If you are gonna look like a fool at least have some idea of what you are talking about.

It is a lot harder to look like a fool when you have some idea of what you are talking about.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
hoosiers Hangout Grand Counsel

hoosiers

Posted
Posted

Our ownership has been clearing $50M-$60+M the past several years given the MASN $, increased attendance, higher national TV contract, hosting several playoff games, etc.

Our ownership has a majority share of the local TV rights to two MLB franchises.

Our ownership is laughing all the way to the bank while fielding an average payroll at best and absolutely zero participation in the high $, posting international talent (while small market teams like Cincinnati, Minnesota and Oakland do participate).

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Aloe Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

Aloe

Posted
Posted
Our ownership has been clearing $50M-$60+M the past several years given the MASN $, increased attendance, higher national TV contract, hosting several playoff games, etc.

Our ownership has a majority share of the local TV rights to two MLB franchises.

Our ownership is laughing all the way to the bank while fielding an average payroll at best and absolutely zero participation in the high $, posting international talent (while small market teams like Cincinnati, Minnesota and Oakland do participate).

Shhhhhhh..... Not so loud.
Link to comment
Share on other sites
mdbdotcom Hangout Grand Counsel

mdbdotcom

Posted
Posted
Our ownership has been clearing $50M-$60+M the past several years given the MASN $, increased attendance, higher national TV contract, hosting several playoff games, etc.

Our ownership has a majority share of the local TV rights to two MLB franchises.

Our ownership is laughing all the way to the bank while fielding an average payroll at best and absolutely zero participation in the high $, posting international talent (while small market teams like Cincinnati, Minnesota and Oakland do participate).

And the only thing our ownership has done better over the last three years has been to put a team on the field that has won more games than three of those four teams.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
foxfield Hangout Grand Counsel

foxfield

Posted
Posted
And the only thing our ownership has done better over the last three years has been to put a team on the field that has won more games than three of those four teams.

We cannot have a meaningful expression of fan "hot stove" steam if you are going to throw the cold water of well, you know, facts into the mix.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Frobby Hangout Grand Counsel

Frobby

Posted
Posted
I am being completely serious. They were in the middle last year, and they are definitely going to increase for 2015.

But I think most teams will increase in 2015. There's a lot of money floating around MLB these days.

Per BB-ref, the Orioles were 13th of 30 teams in payroll last year, so they are already in the top half. They were about $20 mm behind the 10th and 11th highest teams. http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2014-misc.shtml

It will surprise me a bit if the Orioles move up more than one spot, given the gap and the identity of the teams that occupy the next tier:

6. Nats $137 mm

7. Jays $136 mm

8. Red Sox $135 mm

9. Cards $130 mm

10. Rangers $130 mm

11. Angels $129 mm

12. Brewers $110 mm

13. Orioles $109 mm

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • e16bball
      Walltimore

      By e16bball · Posted

      I don’t like the wall. I think it’s affecting our hitters. I’ve mentioned before that I think it has totally warped Mountcastle into something he was never really meant to be. The guy came up as a pull-heavy HR hitter, and in his first season-plus (725 PAs), he puts up 38 HRs and a 116 wRC+. Since then, the wRC+ is down to 110, and his approach has totally changed, with his pull numbers plummeting (down from 39% in 2021 to less than 28% this year). He still hits the ball hard, but constantly underachieves his batted ball data — probably because he’s trying to avoid the pull field and hitting balls to the deepest parts of pretty much every other park. Will the same thing happen to Mayo? Maybe he has more pure power, but it’s always going to be a challenge for a RH slugger to survive with that wall. So much harder to do damage.   Beyond that, I think it’s also creating a serious risk of changing our LH hitters’ approaches too. These guys (Henderson, Holliday, Cowser, 2/3 of Adley) have come up with a reputation for being able to drive the ball to all fields. But how long does that continue when they just can’t hit it out to the opposite field? Our LH hitters had a combined 44 wRC+ at OPACY, and only one HR. They had the 3rd most balls hit to LF at home by LHHs, but the lowest wRC+ of any team on those balls (for the second straight year). The Royals, ironically enough, were the only team that was lower than a 70 wRC+ — that’s how much worse our lefties fared going oppo (at OPACY) than everyone else’s. By player: Gunnar Henderson: 112 wRC+ / .160 ISO (51 PAs) Adley Rutschman: 10 wRC+ / .026 ISO (38 PAs) Anthony Santander: 14 wRC+ / .095 ISO (43 PAs) Colton Cowser: 58 wRC+ / .057 ISO (36 PAs) Ryan O’Hearn: 47 wRC+ / .091 ISO (55 PAs) Cedric Mullins: 23 wRC+ / .100 ISO (41 PAs) Jackson Holliday: -72 wRC+ / .000 ISO (16 PAs)   On the road, they had a combined 126 wRC+ (with 9 HRs) going to left field, so it’s not like they’re bad at it. It’s just Death Valley out there in LF for them at OPACY.  How long will it be until these LH guys just start going full pull-happy? Essentially, the opposite of what’s happened with Mountcastle. When (a) your team’s philosophy is to focus on doing damage and (b) you can’t DO damage to the opposite field — the rational endpoint is just to try to pull everything. I don’t think that’s a good outcome. I think it makes them much worse hitters in the other 81 games, and I think it’s a terrible waste of a bunch of really talented hitters with all-field abilities.
    • Pickles
      Elias: Hyde will be back

      By Pickles · Posted

      Which core players beside Adley Rutschman struggled?
    • Pat Kelly
      Elias: Hyde will be back

      By Pat Kelly · Posted

      The entire commentary on Hyde and the team seems odd but have to admit there does seem to be something off.   Team seemed adrift for most of the 2nd half.  A very talented team went off the rails midway through the season mostly due to core players struggling and rookies not performing or filling in adequately for a few injured starters.    None of the position player trade line acquisitions performed that well.     Hyde seemed in over his head or at a loss on how to correct things, but he must have convinced Elias that he has a plan to fix things.  Curious to see what happens with the coaching staff.  
    • Allan Bryant
      What about Tomoyuki Sugano for 2025?

      By Allan Bryant · Posted

      And or give up picks for QO pitchers 
    • Pickles
      Elias: Hyde will be back

      By Pickles · Posted

      They've averaged 92 wins a year the last 3 years in the most difficult environment in the sport with basically the greatest disadvantages in the sport. Something tells me they know a hell of a lot more about this than you do.    
    • Baseball fandom
      Elias: Hyde will be back

      By Baseball fandom · Posted

      Not when they aren't worthy. At minimum the hitting coaches should be el gonezo
    • Pickles
      Elias: Hyde will be back

      By Pickles · Posted

      That is the sign of a stable and successful organization.  Firing people.  Who could argue that?

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...