Hardball Times: Tommy John

[Crazysilver03]

Their chances of contention were already low. They might just join the Phillies in giving up the season already.

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[Can_of_corn]

Their chances of contention were already low. They might just join the Phillies in giving up the season already.

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I wouldn't trade prospects for a one year Norris rental. Gonzo is another story but a team would have to love him. I wouldn't want Jimenez unless the O's wanted to eat at least a third of his contract.

[weams]

Are they realistically competitive with Darvish out?

So is this the same injury he had last season? I forget why they shut him down. I do remember he got grief for not coming back the last few weeks of the season.

If he had had the surgery then, he could have pitched competitively next season.

[Crazysilver03]

I wouldn't trade prospects for a one year Norris rental. Gonzo is another story but a team would have to love him. I wouldn't want Jimenez unless the O's wanted to eat at least a third of his contract.

Agreed on all points. Could see Texas going after Verrett for back of the rotation though.

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[weams]

I wouldn't trade prospects for a one year Norris rental. Gonzo is another story but a team would have to love him. I wouldn't want Jimenez unless the O's wanted to eat at least a third of his contract.

Daniels does not think like you though.

[Can_of_corn]

Daniels does not think like you though.

His loss.

[Can_of_corn]

If he had had the surgery then, he could have pitched competitively next season.

It would have moved the timetable up by half a season.

Of course he might not need it.

Tanaka is supposedly healed and has self diagnosed the cause of last season's troubles.

[BohKnowsBmore]

Agreed on all points. Could see Texas going after Verrett for back of the rotation though.

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Would be interesting flip.

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[waroriole]

I wouldn't trade prospects for a one year Norris rental. Gonzo is another story but a team would have to love him. I wouldn't want Jimenez unless the O's wanted to eat at least a third of his contract.

I'd eat 1/3 of that deal.

[Can_of_corn]

I'd eat 1/3 of that deal.

So would I but I would like at least a high ceiling low probability guy in return.

[waroriole]

So would I but I would like at least a high ceiling low probability guy in return.

Ideally, yes. I'd just be thrilled to get rid of 26M and not have to put a better SP in the bullpen.

[Crazysilver03]

Is Darvish a FA after this year?

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[TheOrangeBirds]

Just another reason why you don't pay for pitching.

[TheOrangeBirds]

Is Darvish a FA after this year?

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No after 2017.

[Can_of_corn]

Is Darvish a FA after this year?

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2018 according to BR.