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They want the young pitchers to earn the spots in the major league rotation. It is something we havent had in forever. Players forcing their way on to the roster.

And handing the job to a guy like Steve Trachsel is so much better? What left to guys like Albers and Olson have left to prove at AAA. It's either put up or shut up time. We're not expecting to actually win anything this year........ wouldn't it be a perfect time to let some of the younger guys prove themselves? We have nothing to gain with Steve Trachsel starting 25-30 baseball games.

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They want the young pitchers to earn the spots in the major league rotation. It is something we havent had in forever. Players forcing their way on to the roster.

It seems like that is what they are trying to do, but I don't think I agree with the second vet. You have to think at least one of our guys (i.e. Penn/Olson) is ready to swink or swim at the pro-level.

Now if for some reason we were going to be trading one of the more "ready" guys, than maybe it would make sense, but otherwise, its going to make watching more painful, knowing you're not at least watching a part of the future, just a fill-in vet that really provides no meaningful benefit.

Oh well, I guess we'll wait and see. Thanks for the info Belkast.

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Even if the Indians offer something like Miller and Peralta?

If it is true that we will really/truly make a very strong push for Tex and get him, than I would keep Roberts. If we're not going to get Tex/some other real good hitter at a spot we need next year, then I would trade him.

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Another vet pitcher? If so, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. All of a sudden it seems that MacPhail or someone actually thinks we might win 55 games instead of 54......:rolleyes:

Hah!

But if I had my choice I would love to have a vet or two around the young guys. Flash forward 2 or 3 seasons, or whenever you believe it's reasonable to think of the O's as contenders. At that point, in my opinion, your young pitchers are better off if they spent the 2008 season (and maybe more) around some wise vets that helped them along.

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And handing the job to a guy like Steve Trachsel is so much better? What left to guys like Albers and Olson have left to prove at AAA. It's either put up or shut up time. We're not expecting to actually win anything this year........ wouldn't it be a perfect time to let some of the younger guys prove themselves? We have nothing to gain with Steve Trachsel starting 25-30 baseball games.

Olson should go back to AAA. He changed his routine when he got to the majors so he needs to go back and get himself back to his old self.

I am not saying Trachsel is any better, but at the same time, throwing vets out there, you can try and get their value up and trade them down the line for more minor league players and or keep the service time down on the minor leaguers you currently have.

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Hah!

But if I had my choice I would love to have a vet or two around the young guys. Flash forward 2 or 3 seasons, or whenever you believe it's reasonable to think of the O's as contenders. At that point, in my opinion, your young pitchers are better off if they spent the 2008 season (and maybe more) around some wise vets that helped them along.

Problem is, you get another vet, there ain't gonna be any young guys for them to be around . . .

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The plan is to sign a guy like Lohse for one year, then possibly look to trade him in July...Basically, he serves as a stop gap to allow the young pitchers a few more months of MiL pitching.

If this is still the plan, it is a good one IMO.

What i want to know is does this mean Trax is still handed a spot or does he actually have to earn it?

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