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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Duquette: "Now is the time of the year to buckle down & for people to make choices." <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash">#Orioles</a></p>— Eduardo A. Encina (@EddieInTheYard) <a href="

">December 10, 2015</a></blockquote>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Orioles didn't increase 7-year offer to Davis. Source: "Not one nickel." Offer off table, although O's would pick up thread of past talks.</p>— Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) <a href="

">December 10, 2015</a></blockquote>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Orioles are continuing the business of pursuing other players and remaking team for 2016, whether that includes Chris Davis or not.</p>— Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) <a href="

">December 10, 2015</a></blockquote>

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If true, I support this move - so long as PA is spending that money elsewhere. If he plans to bank that money instead of putting it towards another FA, then I hope the offer is still on the table.

They will have a portion of that money spent by the end of the week, IMHO. No way are Dan and Buck going to fanfest without something for the fans to cheer about. I think there's a good chance we have a new pitcher and outfielder in the next 48 hours, unless Davis decides to take the O's offer pretty soon.

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Of course this doesn't necessarily mean the end of negotiations, but it does mean the burden is now on Davis/Boras to demonstrate that 7/150 was a lowball offer - something I believe is unlikely. And suddenly the QO makes its presence felt too.

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I predict he comes back to us in March for 5 years / $90 M.

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That would be awesome. I like Davis, but I hate greed. I agree with Brit when she said on MLBN last night, is Davis worth double what Jones makes? She said get an outfielder AND a starting pitcher for the Davis money and it would make the team all around better.

Davis and Boras can pound sand for all I care.

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By leaking the offer is off the table it says to me that the Orioles don't believe Chris Davis has a better offer then theirs. They are calling Mr. Bora's bluff.

Exactly what they should be doing. O's probably could have started with $175M and Boras would be coming back with $250M. Davis/Boras has had plenty of time to find a team willing to beat the O's offer. I don't believe they can do better than $150M, and if they can I would say good luck to them, Davis is probably not worth $150M and we certainly don't want to go higher.

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Can't really form a fair judgement when I'm not privy to the facts, but I do like the notion that we made an aggressive offer, and then pulled it so it can't be shopped. That offer represents a good faith attempt to bring him back without much of a hometown discount. If they choose to not accept it at this time, then publicly withdrawing is a reasonable thing to do. Boras usually wins when he makes these kinds of judgements, so he must feel good about their chances to get that offer or better from someone else. Hard not to side with management here though, that was a very aggressive offer for a guy who was a complete disaster in the preceding season.

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Can't really form a fair judgement when I'm not privy to the facts, but I do like the notion that we made an aggressive offer, and then pulled it so it can't be shopped. That offer represents a good faith attempt to bring him back without much of a hometown discount. If they choose to not accept it at this time, then publicly withdrawing is a reasonable thing to do. Boras usually wins when he makes these kinds of judgements, so he must feel good about their chances to get that offer or better from someone else. Hard not to side with management here though, that was a very aggressive offer for a guy who was a complete disaster in the preceding season.

Boras has been losing more and more recently with his gambles.

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If true, I support this move - so long as PA is spending that money elsewhere. If he plans to bank that money instead of putting it towards another FA, then I hope the offer is still on the table.

I do think this is a big variable that hasn't been extensively discussed. The public narrative was that PA authorized a bunch of extra money for CD. Because he wanted CD. Is that a one-time authorization for Chris specifically? Would he be willing to stretch the payroll pretty significantly this year (with Trumbo and Wieters) and into the future (with a player like Upton) without Chris Davis?

Perhaps so (and I certainly hope so). However, I think there's an assumption on this board, possibly erroneous, that we are authorized a significant bump in payroll and a bit of a free agent spending spree. I'm just concerned the "Chris Davis" may have been the only possible recipient in that "pay to the order of" line.

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Gotta give Duquette and the O's a lot of credit for how they have handled the whole Davis issue. They made a very fair offer and said "take it or leave it". It reminds me a little of Shark Tank. And we seem to have a Plan B with Trumbo and if the savings is executed well (with a pitcher and Gordon/Upton), could be better for us then getting Davis back. Nice job.

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