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BohKnowsBmore Hangout Grand Counsel

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Being in the majors at an earlier age is a consequence of being a better player. Davis made his debut at 22. Then played his way back to AAA at 23. And 24. And 25.

No doubt, I certainly wouldn't argue that. This is something that has routinely been brought up in discussions about Machado, Schoop, etc. The initial statement I was making had to do with the single-season WAR totals of Davis/Jones having different variances with similar-ish mean expectations. My only point about the debut ages was to make it clear that a straight comparison of total career WAR to date between Davis/Jones on its own isn't really apples-apples for the sake of predicting 2016 expected WAR for the two players.

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...so if he catches Cal Ripken with 431 home runs as an Oriole that's... 270 more home runs. Meaning he would be worth A-Rod money?

He'd have to average 38.5 HR over seven years to do that.

For what it's worth, his HR average as an Oriole is 1 HR per 3.83 games. That is 36.6 HR in a 140 game season and 39.2 HR in a 150 game season.

http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php/151431-Chris-Davis-Career-Home-Runs-Where-Does-He-End-Up

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...so if he catches Cal Ripken with 431 home runs as an Oriole that's... 270 more home runs. Meaning he would be worth A-Rod money?

He'd have to average 38.5 HR over seven years to do that.

Players with 270+ homers from age 30 to 36:

                                                                                                                                                                             Rk               Player  HR From   To   Age    G   PA   AB   R    H  2B 3B  RBI  BB IBB  SO HBP SH SF GDP  SB CS   BA  OBP  SLG   OPS         Pos                          Tm1             Babe Ruth 327 1925 1931 30-36  980 4379 3481 941 1210 185 41 1000     813 492  13        72  44 41 .348 .473 .706 1.179     *97/H31                         NYY2          Mark McGwire 325 1994 2000 30-36  834 3462 2681 599  770 114  1  718 713 101 762  43  0 25  60   6  1 .287 .441 .694 1.135       *3/HD                     OAK-STL3            Sammy Sosa 315 1999 2005 30-36  993 4346 3737 695 1071 173 11  775 545  95 996  23  0 41  87  17 16 .287 .377 .592  .969      *9/D8H                     CHC-BAL4           Barry Bonds 308 1995 2001 30-36 1015 4402 3418 823 1026 207 30  782 913 181 570  37  1 33  68 175 45 .300 .449 .649 1.098      *7/HD8                         SFG5       Rafael Palmeiro 292 1995 2001 30-36 1101 4823 4143 688 1202 222 11  868 604  71 597  31  0 45  84  32 16 .290 .381 .560  .941       *3D/H                     BAL-TEX6           Willie Mays 285 1961 1967 30-36 1080 4512 3963 795 1187 193 33  763 504  78 561  13  6 26  95  83 24 .300 .378 .581  .959   *8/H96735                         SFG7             Jim Thome 274 2001 2007 30-36  937 3961 3207 623  892 155  7  713 695  96 990  29  0 30  48   1  9 .278 .408 .587  .995       *3D/H                 CLE-PHI-CHW
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Players with 270+ homers from age 30 to 36:
                                                                                                                                                                             Rk               Player  HR From   To   Age    G   PA   AB   R    H  2B 3B  RBI  BB IBB  SO HBP SH SF GDP  SB CS   BA  OBP  SLG   OPS         Pos                          Tm1             Babe Ruth 327 1925 1931 30-36  980 4379 3481 941 1210 185 41 1000     813 492  13        72  44 41 .348 .473 .706 1.179     *97/H31                         NYY2          Mark McGwire 325 1994 2000 30-36  834 3462 2681 599  770 114  1  718 713 101 762  43  0 25  60   6  1 .287 .441 .694 1.135       *3/HD                     OAK-STL3            Sammy Sosa 315 1999 2005 30-36  993 4346 3737 695 1071 173 11  775 545  95 996  23  0 41  87  17 16 .287 .377 .592  .969      *9/D8H                     CHC-BAL4           Barry Bonds 308 1995 2001 30-36 1015 4402 3418 823 1026 207 30  782 913 181 570  37  1 33  68 175 45 .300 .449 .649 1.098      *7/HD8                         SFG5       Rafael Palmeiro 292 1995 2001 30-36 1101 4823 4143 688 1202 222 11  868 604  71 597  31  0 45  84  32 16 .290 .381 .560  .941       *3D/H                     BAL-TEX6           Willie Mays 285 1961 1967 30-36 1080 4512 3963 795 1187 193 33  763 504  78 561  13  6 26  95  83 24 .300 .378 .581  .959   *8/H96735                         SFG7             Jim Thome 274 2001 2007 30-36  937 3961 3207 623  892 155  7  713 695  96 990  29  0 30  48   1  9 .278 .408 .587  .995       *3D/H                 CLE-PHI-CHW

So Willie and the Babe were on Roids?

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In today's <a href="https://twitter.com/baltimoresun">@BaltimoreSun</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash">#Orioles</a> fans largely glad to see Chris Davis back, but disappointed it took so long. <a href="https://t.co/KRrKHKjAtv">https://t.co/KRrKHKjAtv</a></p>— Eduardo A. Encina (@EddieInTheYard) <a href="

">January 25, 2016</a></blockquote>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In today's <a href="https://twitter.com/baltimoresun">@BaltimoreSun</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash">#Orioles</a> fans largely glad to see Chris Davis back, but disappointed it took so long. <a href="https://t.co/KRrKHKjAtv">https://t.co/KRrKHKjAtv</a></p>— Eduardo A. Encina (@EddieInTheYard) <a href="
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Yeah he's back why does it matter at this point. Dumb article at this point shoes there is nothing else worth writing about right now.

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I really couldn't care less how long it took. I just hope that Davis produces enough to make it a half-decent deal.

How about caring because the amount of money involved seems to have commanded the O's attention for an extended period of time (to the exclusion of other options)?

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I am of the belief that Chris Davis performs better when there is less upheaval in his world. He destroyed the minors, then struggled when the Rangers kept shuttling him back and forth... we trade for him and give him an every day lineup spot and he did well... then we made him the every day 1B and he took off like a rocket... I hope it isn't controversial, but he welcomed his first baby to the world at the beginning of the 2014 season and I wonder if just the transition to having a baby in the house didn't change his approach and preparation... the lack of the TUE didn't help either. So, anyway, fastforward a year and he crushes again in 2015. I guess I'm just hoping that knowing exactly where he'll be and what he'll be doing for the next seven years will be an awesome thing for him.

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Players with 270+ homers from age 30 to 36:
                                                                                                                                                                             Rk               Player  HR From   To   Age    G   PA   AB   R    H  2B 3B  RBI  BB IBB  SO HBP SH SF GDP  SB CS   BA  OBP  SLG   OPS         Pos                          Tm1             Babe Ruth 327 1925 1931 30-36  980 4379 3481 941 1210 185 41 1000     813 492  13        72  44 41 .348 .473 .706 1.179     *97/H31                         NYY2          Mark McGwire 325 1994 2000 30-36  834 3462 2681 599  770 114  1  718 713 101 762  43  0 25  60   6  1 .287 .441 .694 1.135       *3/HD                     OAK-STL3            Sammy Sosa 315 1999 2005 30-36  993 4346 3737 695 1071 173 11  775 545  95 996  23  0 41  87  17 16 .287 .377 .592  .969      *9/D8H                     CHC-BAL4           Barry Bonds 308 1995 2001 30-36 1015 4402 3418 823 1026 207 30  782 913 181 570  37  1 33  68 175 45 .300 .449 .649 1.098      *7/HD8                         SFG5       Rafael Palmeiro 292 1995 2001 30-36 1101 4823 4143 688 1202 222 11  868 604  71 597  31  0 45  84  32 16 .290 .381 .560  .941       *3D/H                     BAL-TEX6           Willie Mays 285 1961 1967 30-36 1080 4512 3963 795 1187 193 33  763 504  78 561  13  6 26  95  83 24 .300 .378 .581  .959   *8/H96735                         SFG7             Jim Thome 274 2001 2007 30-36  937 3961 3207 623  892 155  7  713 695  96 990  29  0 30  48   1  9 .278 .408 .587  .995       *3D/H                 CLE-PHI-CHW

Let me get this straight... You're telling me that from age 30-36 Babe Ruth hit 41 triples?!?

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