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Better Career, Wilson or Wright?

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Redskins Rick Hangout Grand Counsel

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Wilson's 90 MPH fastball may limit how much of a career he has going forward. Still, if he doesn't lose velocity then I would guess he''ll have the better career, since he understands the importance of offspeed pitches. Unlike Gausman or Wright.

88-90 MPH is just fine, if you have very good control and can keep the hitters off balance with a big difference in slow stuff and heater.

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Es4M11 Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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88-90 MPH is just fine, if you have very good control and can keep the hitters off balance with a big difference in slow stuff and heater.

Greg Maddux dominated throwing 88-90. Of course he also threw about 26 different pitches with crazy movement and pinpoint control

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Greg Maddux dominated throwing 88-90. Of course he also threw about 26 different pitches with crazy movement and pinpoint control

That is the one example that is the outlier. HE could hit a thumbtack at 90 mph. All other pitchers including Tyler Wilson cannot. Wilson is not necessarily even a control pitcher.

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That is the one example that is the outlier. HE could hit a thumbtack at 90 mph. All other pitchers including Tyler Wilson cannot. Wilson is not necessarily even a control pitcher.

I'm glad I got to watch him some growing up. Was a real treat. Maddux and Martinez - it didn't get any better in my lifetime. And they did it in the heart of the steroid era...

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jabba72 Hangout Veteran Council

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88-90 MPH is just fine, if you have very good control and can keep the hitters off balance with a big difference in slow stuff and heater.

This isnt the 70's. Unless he adds a knuckler or starts throwing nasty breaking pitches. Any loss in velocity is going to hurt Wilson going forward. Lets just hope the Orioles get 4-5 years of effective starting pitching.

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We had a pretty damn good one here in Mussina. :)

I have always been a big Mussina fan, even as a Yankee. But let's be realistic here, at their peaks Mussina wasn't in the same league as those two.

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Mike Wright is Tommy Hunter to me minus the first few good years as a starter. He's a mid to late inning reliever with Plus velocity but lacks really good command and throws a pretty straight fastball. That being said, Tommy Hunter was pretty solid. But, I see that as his ceiling. Wilson on the other hand reminds me of a Rodrigo Lopez type. Could have a few solid years, but he knows how to pitch so maybe he'll surprise. Can't get away with bad command days though.

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I would have to disagree.

Those 2 are HOF, and even Maddux believes Mussina belongs in the HOF.

Okay, I respect that.

At their peaks Martinez and Maddux were much better that Mussina - the stats bare this out. Mussina had an ERA+ over 150 twice, Maddux 9 times (including 2 over 200), and Martinez 9 times (5 times over 200).

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Redskins Rick Hangout Grand Counsel

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Okay, I respect that.

At their peaks Martinez and Maddux were much better that Mussina - the stats bare this out. Mussina had an ERA+ over 150 twice, Maddux 9 times (including 2 over 200), and Martinez 9 times (5 times over 200).

All three were pretty darn good at their peak, yes, I would give the edge to Maddux and Pedro. But, you said Mussina didn't belong with them, and he does.

He has a career WAR of 82.7.

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All three were pretty darn good at their peak, yes, I would give the edge to Maddux and Pedro. But, you said Mussina didn't belong with them, and he does.

He has a career WAR of 82.7.

I'm not trying to take anything away from The Moose, I'm a huge fan. Maddux and Martinez were just beyond top shelf.

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