When do the O's fish or cut bait with Duquette and Showalter?

[spiritof66]

53 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Brady is the guy.  He's PA's boy.  Seems like it is a power struggle.  Buck v. DD v. Brady/PA

Brady would probably want to bring in his own people.  As long as Buck is around that isn't going to happen.  But I bet Brady would give a look at Palmeiro as hitting coach.  

I like Brady. He seems like a smart guy. Everyone seems to speak highly of him.

But other than his conditioning/strength work with players, I have no idea what he does as VP of baseball operations. What are his experience and accomplishments with the Orioles that make him a good candidate to replace Duquette?

Given the current state of things, I would think it makes more sense to bring in someone from outside the organization, though I have no idea who would take the job.

[Chavez Ravine]

6 hours ago, birdwatcher55 said:

Olsen Twins brother?

Dempsey is usually good for entertainment on an otherwise miserable day.

Maybe Dan spent those absent hours while Rizzo was left alone to make the rainout call by himself looking for Toronto condos? Seems dubious.

[Ohfan67]

1 hour ago, birdwatcher55 said:

There are only 30 of these jobs. Angelos would have no trouble finding an up and coming star. Who is Houston's assistant GM? Cleveland? Washington?

I disagree. He failed miserably at this in the last search. Duquette was the fallback and he was desperate for a job. A lot of people do not want to work for Angelos. 

[sportsfan8703]

Brady will almost certainly be our next GM.  

[Ohfan67]

P.s.  I also think a lot of GM candidates would be leery of Buck staying as manager. He seems much more involved in player personnel moves than most managers. I'm a fan of Buck, but I could see a new GM wanting to be independent of a strong, senior manager like Buck. 

[Ohfan67]

Just now, sportsfan8703 said:

Brady will almost certainly be our next GM.  

Probably correct. 

[eddie83]

I think Buck and Brady get along well, at least that is the perception. 

[sportsfan8703]

Is Mcdowell really the problem?

"Atlanta ranked no lower than fourth in the NL in ERA during seven of McDowell's seasons, and led the league in 2013. But after deciding to rebuild, the Braves ranked 13th in 2015 and 11th this past season with a 4.51 ERA."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2016/10/07/braves-dismiss-longtime-pitching-coach-roger-mcdowell/91728806/#

So 7/9 years in Atlanta he had top 4 pitching staffs in the NL.   The obvious answer is that we have a lack of talent.  Tillman is hurt.  Gausman has just lost it.  Ubaldo has been terrible for 80% of his time here.  Asher is better suited for the pen.  Everyone is getting rocked in AAA.  What to do?

[Can_of_corn]

6 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Brady will almost certainly be our next GM.  

Sarah Gelles if Dan doesn't get the boot.

[Norfolk orioles]

 After this week, I am finally coming around to the reality that we need to clean house with the entire organization and sell off our assets.

 

Signing Davis to a 150 mil contract and resigning trumbo with Mancini just sitting there waiting shows a total lack of front office comprehension.

 

Add in the pitching woes, the inability to draft or develop talent, the gallardo and Jiminez signings costing us draft picks, well, I've seen just about enough to know where this train is headed and it sure isn't "the promised land".

[sportsfan8703]

3 minutes ago, Norfolk orioles said:

 After this week, I am finally coming around to the reality that we need to clean house with the entire organization and sell off our assets.

 

Signing Davis to a 150 mil contract and resigning trumbo with Mancini just sitting there waiting shows a total lack of front office comprehension.

 

Add in the pitching woes, the inability to draft or develop talent, the gallardo and Jiminez signings costing us draft picks, well, I've seen just about enough to know where this train is headed and it sure isn't "the promised land".

What's even worse with the Mancini thing is we didn't even play him in the OF in ST.  That was just ridiculous.  

[sportsfan8703]

This article came up in another thread.  It's the Rosenthal piece from ST about Brady and his role with the team.  It makes for a good re-read now.  

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/brady-andersons-role-with-orioles-a-topic-of-debate-032017

[Frobby]

Just now, sportsfan8703 said:

What's even worse with the Mancini thing is we didn't even play him in the OF in ST.  That was just ridiculous.  

What are you talking about?    Mancini played plenty of games in the OF this spring.    I attended two of them in person.   

[Norfolk orioles]

2 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

What's even worse with the Mancini thing is we didn't even play him in the OF in ST.  That was just ridiculous.  

Yeah there is no leadership.

 

We are constantly forced to react and are NEVER proactive. It shows and it's finally caught up to us.

[spiritof66]

20 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Sarah Gelles if Dan doesn't get the boot.

I read this to say that Gelles would have a good chance if there's change made after the 2018 season (or later), but not now. Is that what you mean?

I know a little bit about her, and from the little I know I think she'd be a good choice. But I have no idea what kind of reputation/respect she has in the front office or with ownership. I also don't know of any specific input she's had that's had either a positive effect in building the team or a negative effect in creating the current mess.