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5 minutes ago, ChuckS said:

Miguel Tejada 

Who else was in on Tejada?

I don't think anyone was.

From what I remember the O's are the only team that went into that offseason with the intention of spending big.

Heck Vlad had to wait weeks after the O's offer to find someone else that he could play for.

So while the O's did step up and pay for Tejada I don't think you could say they won a bidding war.

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On 8/19/2017 at 7:00 AM, Es4M11 said:

This 100%.

Angelos/DD can't go and pay Chris Davis and Mark Trumbo $36m AAV and then say "we can't afford Manny". If the O's really can't afford a market value contract for Manny, then shame on them for grossly mismanaging their resources.

If money is cited as the reason for not re-signing Machado, I might just suspend my Orioles fandom until new ownership is in place. I can understand if it is not Manny's desire to remain in Baltimore, but if the Orioles low-ball Manny and then cry poverty when he signs elsewhere, I'm done supporting the franchise for a while.

If the determination is made that Manny will not re-sign by his own choice, then he needs to be traded this offseason.

Depends on the money he askes for. If he wants 300 million for 7 to 10 years is just too much. The FO also has to address the pitching needs. It'd be so easy if Pete hadn't resigned Chris even at Bucks urging. I hope the FO can resign Manny but they have to be smart about it. I can understand your frustration. Sorry and I don't mean to offend but I am a fan of the team not just one player. 

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3 minutes ago, Tx Oriole said:

Depends on the money he askes for. If he wants 300 million for 7 to 10 years is just too much. The FO also has to address the pitching needs. It'd be so easy if Pete hadn't resigned Chris even at Bucks urging. I hope the FO can resign Manny but they have to be smart about it. I can understand your frustration. Sorry and I don't mean to offend but I am a fan of the team not just one player. 

I'd do 10/300 on a player like Manny everyday of the week and twice on Sunday before I'd give 7/161 to a Davis.

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9 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It's different when it's an incumbent player.     I don't rule out that Manny will stay.     

Got any examples?  Only one I can think of is them outspending the Nats on O'Day and I have to wonder if it that wasn't mostly because it was the Nationals they were bidding against.

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18 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Got any examples?  Only one I can think of is them outspending the Nats on O'Day and I have to wonder if it that wasn't mostly because it was the Nationals they were bidding against.

The way you are defining bidding war, when was the last time they lost one?    Mussina?

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40 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'd do 10/300 on a player like Manny everyday of the week and twice on Sunday before I'd give 7/161 to a Davis.

I understand Can. I didn't want CD resigned at all. Waste of money. I knew Chris couldn't fulfill the contract but didn't expect him to fall so quickly. Thought that he would be good for 4 years. Oh well. As for Manny I want him resigned but gosh 300 million. If Manny likes Baltimore wonder if he'd make a little lower deal? 

 

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1 minute ago, Tx Oriole said:

I understand Can. I didn't want CD resigned at all. Waste of money. I knew Chris couldn't fulfill the contract but didn't expect him to fall so quickly. Thought that he would be good for 4 years. Oh well. As for Manny I want him resigned but gosh 300 million. If Manny likes Baltimore wonder if he'd make a little lower deal? 

 

300M doesn't seem that large to me when I look at all the money MLB has been bringing in.  The MLBAM sale to Disney alone was for more than 2.5B.

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37 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It's different when it's an incumbent player.     I don't rule out that Manny will stay.     

I hope you are right Frobby. Maybe the FO will offer Manny a contract extension this offseason. They sure should do that. At least try. If you were in his place would you accept a 3 year extension or hold out for FA? 

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2 minutes ago, Tx Oriole said:

I hope you are right Frobby. Maybe the FO will offer Manny a contract extension this offseason. They sure should do that. At least try. If you were in his place would you accept a 3 year extension or hold out for FA? 

You didn't ask me but I'd much rather hit the FA market at 26.  That is how you get a 10 year deal.

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