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29 minutes ago, phillyOs119 said:

I’m not anti DD, I think I’ve been clear about that.

29 teams didn’t have 3 open spots in their rotation and limited funds and the stated desire to compete.  

There may be one or two other teams that fit that criteria.

 

3 hours ago, Frobby said:

Dave Cameron had projected $9 mm for Fister, while the fangraphs crowdsource had projected $8 mm.    I’m a bit shocked he’d sign for a $4 mm guarantee this early in the offseason, rather than waiting for the market to develop.    But maybe there are incentives in this deal that haven’t been reported and are pretty attainable.   

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-2018-free-agent-bargains/

Maybe Fister got spooked after not being signed last offseason until spring training.   Amd Texas is probably one of those teams.  

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5 hours ago, Beef Supreme said:

Sure, Andrew Miller took $36MM/4 instead of $40MM. We can/will never know for sure if a player would sign with any club in particular, even if for much more money. But it is rare. For Doug Fister, would $5MM plus a team option not have moved the needle? How about $6MM, with a $9MM team option? The Orioles are so, so desperate for starting pitching that low investment, short-term contracts must be pursued to garner two or three rotation possibles out of the four, five or six needed. At that small of an investment, Fister looks like more of a probable, than just a possibly good, SP investment.

The Orioles need so many strters that you'd think they'd be in on guy like this. When the dust settle I think we will be lucky if we signed guys with any real resume. 

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7 hours ago, phillyOs119 said:

I’m not anti DD, I think I’ve been clear about that.

29 teams didn’t have 3 open spots in their rotation and limited funds and the stated desire to compete.  

There may be one or two other teams that fit that criteria.

Thanks, Duquette is my Birdland equivalent of Thanks, Obama. Whenever anything goes wrong, just say, Thanks, Duquette. Nothing to do with you.

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Everyone knows we are not a destination for a pitcher to come here on a " 1 year prove it deal".  Hitter yes. We can get hitters like Cruz and Castillo, but SP want no part of this place. 

Fister gets to pitch in the AL West with the big ballparks. Could we offer him 10 starts against SEA, LAA, and OAK?  

Looks to me like Fister really wanted to be there. Why else would he sign before anyone else?

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9 hours ago, Mitch Connor said:

Dan is more concerned looking for filler for Norfolk or Bowie right now.

That's a good line, but I will find a way to forgive Dan for not signing Fister - as long as they don't sign someone worse for more.    

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11 hours ago, NCRaven said:

Maybe Duquette is targeting other pitchers.  Better pitchers.  I'm not the least bit bothered that we didn't sign Doug Fister.

You will be when we resign Hellickson instead. I'm not ready to believe the glass is half full with Duquette until he gives me a reason to. 

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21 minutes ago, MDtransplant757 said:

Hellickson never wanted to pitch at Camden Yards, and even said that he wouldn’t sign with the O’s because he hates pitching here 

I remember him saying he didn't like pitching here in an interview...he may not have a lot of choices in the 2018 season. That's if Baltimore decides to offer him a contract. I hope they don't.

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38 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

I remember him saying he didn't like pitching here in an interview...he may not have a lot of choices in the 2018 season. That's if Baltimore decides to offer him a contract. I hope they don't.

Just making the point that Hellickson's the caliber of pitcher I expect Duquette to end up signing. Low floor and low ceiling. 

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Sorry, refuse to get upset every time another team signs anyone.  Or we sign a depth guy to a minor league contract.

Now, we start the season without addressing the rotation in a positive way, I'll lead the mob and help burn DD at the stake.  But, I think it's a little early to start getting upset over nothing.

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