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18 minutes ago, Tx Oriole said:

Why is that nonsense? I think it could happen. 

It's nonsense because there's never been a single substantiated rumor of it actually being in the cards, Buck's never once said he'd want to be a GM, he HAS said he'd like to keep managing, and it'd be weird to move a 60+ year old manager into a GM role at this late stage in his career with no GM experience, and yet Buck would somehow do that knowing full well who he'd have to deal with in order to get anything done (PA)? 

Sorry. No. It's a ridiculous fan theory and nothing more.

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I'm kind of indifferent as to whether Duquette stays on since his replacement could be better or a whole lot worse. 

From what I've seen, I don't think Buck would want to be an off-the-field executive. If that's right, he would take the GM job for the money and as a way to stay in MLB -- not an ideal situation. I also question whether Buck has the experience and capacity that enable practically all of today's GMs to process and use different kinds of information, including extensive statistical data. I imagine he'd be better than Brady, though. 

If Duquette goes, the Orioles should try to hire someone from outside the organization -- though the prospect of working for a team owned by Angelos, with an uncertain proprietor after his demise -- will be a challenge. 

II think Buck's a pretty good manager. That said, I'd prefer to see him replaced. Two reasons. First, the influence he has (or that most readers of Oriole tea leaves think he has) in off-field decisions probably complicates an already screwed-up organization, and could be a further detriment to bringing in a capable GM. Second, i hope that the Orioles' 2019 manager has a lot of young players to put in the lineup, and I'd prefer someone who is more patient with young players, and less loyal to veterans, than Buck is right now. ' 

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2 minutes ago, interloper said:

It's nonsense because there's never been a single substantiated rumor of it actually being in the cards, Buck's never once said he'd want to be a GM, he HAS said he'd like to keep managing, and it'd be weird to move a 60+ year old manager into a GM role at this late stage in his career with no GM experience, and yet Buck would somehow do that knowing full well who he'd have to deal with in order to get anything done (PA)? 

Sorry. No. It's a ridiculous fan theory and nothing more.

I agree totally with your statement about fan theory.

Not sure, I see Buck managing elsewhere. Not, because he isn't good enough.

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I am sure, this has been posted here before.

But, good for a re-read:

https://www.pressboxonline.com/2017/06/15/can-the-orioles-keep-dan-duquette-and-buck-showalter-after-2018

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I think Duquette is the ultimate combination of visionary and grinder in the position that is the hardest to fill in Birdland.
 
As I have pointed out at various times in various columns, I find Duquette's reemergence as a general manager savant to be one of the most impressive second acts I have ever seen in sports.  Doing it while working in close concert with Angelos could not have been easy. He is as tough as they come to work with.
 
Clearly, my first choice would be to keep both, but the feeling I get is that the Orioles' winningest tandem during the past 35 years will wither on the vine after the 2018 season. 

 

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Brady as GM is a complete wild card to me. He might do some good things like value athleticism and defense, and he did mention needing to do more to lock up good young players at one point. Those would be good things. 

He's also given players like Reimold and Trumbo and Hardy far too much benefit of the doubt. 

Would he still be training with players in the offseason as GM? Would be down in the locker room as GM? Those things are very problematic and invite controversy. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

I believe it was an agreed decision within the Orioles FO and not just Brady pushing. IMO

I'm not sure what the truth is. If Brady's job has been to talk contracts with any particular players and he somehow aided in resigning Trumbo then he has a poor grasp on what constitutes a good idea. 

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13 minutes ago, oriole said:

I'm not sure what the truth is. If Brady's job has been to talk contracts with any particular players and he somehow aided in resigning Trumbo then he has a poor grasp on what constitutes a good idea. 

I find it hard to believe that a 3 year deal for 37.5 million, could be approved only by Brady's ok.

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