Cashner signing

[Tony-OH]

56 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Sign Tilly to a MIL deal and let him complete against the Rule 5 guys for the last 2 slots.

I've got to imagine if Tillman would sign a minor league deal this would happen. I'm just not sure he's decided that's his only option at this point.

I personally think the guy is done though. I'd love to be wrong though.

[Tx Oriole]

1 hour ago, Sanfran327 said:

So when will Tillman sign?

I hope never.

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Dangit, how are tweets embedded these days.

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[wildbillhiccup]

2 minutes ago, interloper said:

Obviously. Personally I'm hoping for a 4.50 and I'll see that as a stunning victory for this rotation. And it's an upgrade from last year no matter how you look at it. 

Now if Cashner crashes and burns to a 5 or 6+, then, hey, that sucks. But I'm glad they signed a ML caliber starting pitcher because that's the only option they afforded themselves. They had to make this signing, so we'll just see how it plays out. 

I like him more than Hellickson, I'll say that.

Agree with you on this statement, but I honestly think the difference between the two is pretty marginal. Who knows though...maybe he'll surprise us all. 

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Is it worrying to anyone else that the O's feel the need to defer any part of this contract? I mean it's peanuts. 

[wildcard]

3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I give Dan an A for creativity on this one.    I still don’t love the signing, but the contract is clever and limits the downside.    

So do you think Dan is clever enough to get Arrieta with a  3/63 with two vesting option of 21m each?   Signed on or about March 1st.  I think he has the budget to do that.

[Tony-OH]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I am going to repost this piece I found on reddit's baseball page.

 

With all of the analytics going on nowadays, this is probably why most teams had shied away from him. But hey, when have the Orioles cracked analytics team ever been wrong?

[Just Regular]

With SP3 aboard, I'm honestly torn between SP4 and C if we have one more ~$10M slot.  Obviously both Lucroy and another upgrade at SP would be nice, but if we can't have both, I think Lucroy offers more upside.

[baltfan]

24 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Since win is stuff defined solely as velocity?

He was injured.  Remember the Orioles found something on his physical.  Due to media pressure about the Orioles physicals being too tough they signed him to a lesser contract.

[MDtransplant757]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

We have already reached the extent of my Pokemon knowledge.

I'm a geek sure, but I was a bit old to jump on the Pokemon bandwagon.

You're never to old when it comes to video games IMO

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, interloper said:

Is it worrying to anyone else that the O's feel the need to defer any part of this contract? I mean it's peanuts. 

Nope.

Peter just likes to kick it down the road.

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55 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I am going to repost this piece I found on reddit's baseball page.

 

The only one of those guys I have ever heard of was Frank Viola.  And he basically had the same season statistically in 1992.  Came out and got injured in pre-season in 1994 had to have Tommy John surgery and never really came back.  

Looking at Chacon he only had one decent season in his career.  

Not sure if you can use these guys as comparison.  But I dont' think anyone is expecting 4 WAR seasons from Cashner. 

[Frobby]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Yep, as I said in another thread a vesting option that further vests into a player option.

Pretty nifty.

It's like a Pokemon!

Cashner has never thrown more than 316.2 innings in consecutive seasons, so if his option vests (at 340 innings) or turns into a player option (at 360), I’ll consider that a win for the club.   He’d have to pitch pretty decently to do that, I think.

Ubaldo never got past 326.1 in two consecutive years with us.