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Eduardo Encina: Pedro Araujo’s Spot in Jeopardy?


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2 minutes ago, bpilktree67 said:

Just put Valencia on the DL with illness.   You can make it retroactive for Saturday and we have two days off in the next 9 days.  Peterson can play 3rd and Alverez can back him up if they must in an emergency 

And why do that?  Just do what needs to be done.  

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24 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Flaherty was a good utility player, for sure.  Forgot he was a Rule 5.  

Yeah good utility player worth 1.6 WAR during his career.  Thing is if you wanted him he was 25 and not protected in Rule 5 draft.  I am guessing he wasn't in their plans. If you want a Flaherty guy trade for him and save all the Rule 5 drama.  He isn't going to cost you much. 

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1 hour ago, atomic said:

Yeah good utility player worth 1.6 WAR during his career.  Thing is if you wanted him he was 25 and not protected in Rule 5 draft.  I am guessing he wasn't in their plans. If you want a Flaherty guy trade for him and save all the Rule 5 drama.  He isn't going to cost you much. 

Its not fair to take pot shots at a bench player for low WAR

You can so clearly see how well, his replacements have done this year.

 

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9 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

With Britton returning, someone needs to come off the 40 and 25 roster.

They can get rid of Araujo to clear a spot. They can 60 day DL Tillman or Vielma to clear a 40 spot then 10 day DL a pitcher or send down someone with an option (Castro?)

DD excels at being the master of the 25 & 40 man roster, with a minimal of pain on the parent club.

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2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Just because other folks have done worse doesn't mean he did well.

And just because some folks dont like him, need to take pot shots at him, with every opportunity.

He did well in the role, hell, if he was a better player, he wouldnt have been on the bench.

But, he did very well for himself on at least 2 occasions when he got daily playing time.

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4 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

And just because some folks dont like him, need to take pot shots at him, with every opportunity.

He did well in the role, hell, if he was a better player, he wouldnt have been on the bench.

But, he did very well for himself on at least 2 occasions when he got daily playing time.

Why do you think "like" has to do with anything?

I don't like or dislike him.  He's a replacement level player.

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16 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

You can so clearly see how well, his replacements have done this year.

 

I am not taking pot shots at him. I like Flaherty I wanted him signed this year. I am just saying the best Rule 5 pick we have has given us 1.6 WAR.  Not really worth the effort to destroy the roster

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Just now, atomic said:

I am not taking pot shots at him. I like Flaherty I wanted him signed this year. I am just saying the best Rule 5 pick we have has given us 1.6 WAR.  Not really worth the effort to destroy the roster

My apologies.

I think Flaherty had a very important role here, but thats just IMO.

But, if you really want to know.

The best rule 5 guy we had was Gibbons, and he posted a 1.7, 1.5 and 2.2 in 3 of those years here, playing full time. Again, probably just IMO

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1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

My apologies.

I think Flaherty had a very important role here, but thats just IMO.

But, if you really want to know.

The best rule 5 guy we had was Gibbons, and he posted a 1.7, 1.5 and 2.2 in 3 of those years here, playing full time. Again, probably just IMO

They changed the rules in October of 2006 giving the clubs one more year before players were eligible to be drafted in Rule 5.   So I wouldn't consider Jay Gibbons comparable to post 2006 Rule 5 guys.  

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Just now, atomic said:

They changed the rules in October of 2006 giving the clubs one more year before players were eligible to be drafted in Rule 5.   So I wouldn't consider Jay Gibbons comparable to post 2006 Rule 5 guys.  

Very good point and of which I had forgot about.

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3 hours ago, wildcard said:

The O's have 16 days before they can DL Araujo and keep him.  Since the O's are not contending I don't see how they give up on him.    A pitcher with options is the more likely choice to send down for 10 days.

Yeah, for 16 days it doesn't make much sense. If they do make a move, they will put him on the DL, eventually send him on minor league rehab, then bring him back in September or before if the need arises.

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