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30 minutes ago, cnmilton said:

MLB is the entity that made the MASN deal. The Lerners bought the Nationals with the complete understanding of the rights deal that is in place. if there was an under the table agreement between MLB and the Lerners before the Nationals were sold, it just makes the Angelos family case against both the Lerners and MLB that much stronger.

I'm not following. What is the possible under-the-table agreement you're referring to? And what is "the case against both the Lerners and MLB" that would be made stronger by that agreement?    

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36 minutes ago, atomic said:

I am no fan of Angelos son's but I don't think you should be calling them "Boys" in a professional written article.  

This is the worst thing from the article:
"But the order came down for no official goodbye or recognition for Jones from the team, as management is still sore about his refusal to waive his 10-and-5 rights to be traded at the deadline this season."

Seems the sons might just be worse than their father. 

Hard to say, have they 100% decided that Jones is not coming back?  I can see a scenario where it is possible, 1 year contract for 5 to 7 mil to play RF.  Not sure why the O's would be opposed to that, Jones probably is.

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2 minutes ago, Chromehill said:

Hard to say, have they 100% decided that Jones is not coming back?  I can see a scenario where it is possible, 1 year contract for 5 to 7 mil to play RF.  Not sure why the O's would be opposed to that, Jones probably is.

  1. It's five to seven million when they can put someone there for the league minimum.
  2. He would still have no trade protection so they couldn't trade him.
  3. Would end up blocking one of the young outfielders.
  4. He looked uninterested at times in RF.
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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:
  1. It's five to seven million when they can put someone there for the league minimum.
  2. He would still have no trade protection so they couldn't trade him.
  3. Would end up blocking one of the young outfielders.
  4. He looked uninterested at times in RF.

1-3 are good reasons.   Not to worried about 4 if he chose to come back.   But 1-3 are more than sufficient.    Let’s move on.  

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49 minutes ago, atomic said:

I am no fan of Angelos son's but I don't think you should be calling them "Boys" in a professional written article.  

This is the worst thing from the article:
"But the order came down for no official goodbye or recognition for Jones from the team, as management is still sore about his refusal to waive his 10-and-5 rights to be traded at the deadline this season."

Seems the sons might just be worse than their father. 

It will take some time for me to wrap my mind around that possibility. 

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27 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
  1. It's five to seven million when they can put someone there for the league minimum.
  2. He would still have no trade protection so they couldn't trade him.
  3. Would end up blocking one of the young outfielders.
  4. He looked uninterested at times in RF.

Absolutely. The Orioles actually have prospect candidates to play all three outfield positions. It's pretty much their only strength in terms of young players. It would be a serious waste of resources to sign Adam or a similar outfielder. 

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33 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

I don't know if that is true. Why would they formally recognize a player that hasn't formally said he's retiring? For all we know, Jones could be possibly resigned.

Yeah, what was the organization supposed to do, have a "Farewel Adam" day for a guy who could well be playing for them - albeit more likely against them - next season?

What the players and fans did for Adam was the perfect recognition.

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6 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/30/major-league-baseball-needs-an-orioles-franchise-t/

Although more of a piece on Buck Showalter, Loverro suggests that the "powers to be" do not want the Angelos brothers running the team in the future adn that the team could be for sale this winter. I said all along that the team appeared to currently be setting itself up to be sold, but whether that's true or not remains to be seen.

Though Loverro could not be further from the truth when he said that Buck was fighting against Angelos during his reign (Buck had heavy influence with Angelos, especially after Duquette's 2014-15 Blue Jays dalliance), it is true that the Orioles did have a nice run between 2012 and 2016 and Buck was a big part of that. Of course Buck reportedly had influence on the Davis and Trumbo re-signings so there's that as well.

Either way, I don't know what the future holds, but a fresh start from ownership on down can't be a bad thing .

One negative would be a lot more time of uncertainty.   A new owner, rightly, should have the right to bring in whoever he wants to run the team and set the broad course of how the rebuild should work (where money will be budgeted for scouting, development, payroll, etc).  

So if the team is sold in the offseason, and there is of course a ratification by the owners, it might be the spring before we have a new owner, and THEN decisions get made on how to proceed.   Duquette might continue as a lame duck with little substantive direction then the new owners might pull the plug on him and bring in their own guy once they take charge sometime in 2019.

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1 hour ago, FlipTheBird said:

Yeah, what was the organization supposed to do, have a "Farewel Adam" day for a guy who could well be playing for them - albeit more likely against them - next season?

What the players and fans did for Adam was the perfect recognition.

Yeah. I mean what exactly could they do? He isn’t retiring.  

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Just now, SteveA said:

One negative would be a lot more time of uncertainty.   A new owner, rightly, should have the right to bring in whoever he wants to run the team and set the broad course of how the rebuild should work (where money will be budgeted for scouting, development, payroll, etc).  

So if the team is sold in the offseason, and there is of course a ratification by the owners, it might be the spring before we have a new owner, and THEN decisions get made on how to proceed.   Duquette might continue as a lame duck with little substantive direction then the new owners might pull the plug on him and bring in their own guy once they take charge sometime in 2019.

I think this piece is all speculation. We have never heard any evidence they are selling. Plus look at the kids cheer free program plus bringing in a new COO.  

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