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It is really unfortunate that a guy like Buck spends decades in the game and will never see the World Series, while Alex Cora as a rookie manager gets gifted with the golden roster and wins a title in his first year as manager after winning one in Houston as a coach last year and in 2007 as a player with Boston. 

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Yes, good manager and good guy. It sounds like he really didn't know his fate until the end of the season. From the little reporting that is out there, it really sounds like the brothers didn't make a decision on DD and Buck until the last possible moment.

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1 hour ago, JR Oriole said:

It is really unfortunate that a guy like Buck spends decades in the game and will never see the World Series, while Alex Cora as a rookie manager gets gifted with the golden roster and wins a title in his first year as manager after winning one in Houston as a coach last year and in 2007 as a player with Boston. 

2014 should have been our year.  But then down goes Wieters (perhaps having his best season), Machado, and Davis is suspended.  Also, Britton's wife was pregnant and the baby could be born at any time (which possibly effected Britton's performance).  And of course last but not least, the Royals were on full fire and could do no wrong.

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13 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

No disagreement from me about being time for Buck to move on. I was more or less implying some of his ideas may have not set well.

It's possible, but I honestly think Buck was probably too close to the situation to see the bigger problems. Sure he might have echoed Duqette's sentiment about investing more dollars in the international marketing and things like that, but I seriously doubt he spoke to the ever changing chain of commend / meddling ownership. Maybe I'm wrong. 

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45 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

It's possible, but I honestly think Buck was probably too close to the situation to see the bigger problems. Sure he might have echoed Duqette's sentiment about investing more dollars in the international marketing and things like that, but I seriously doubt he spoke to the ever changing chain of commend / meddling ownership. Maybe I'm wrong. 

He liked the chain of command, that allowed him to voice his opinion to the owner instead of the GM.

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10 hours ago, maybenxtyr said:

Going to miss him regardless of how things ended.

I wonder if what he told John and Lou about necessary changes are why they decided to move on?

I was wondering if perhaps that discussion was the point at which the decision on Duquette was made. It certainly seemed like he expected to return at the end of the season.

Note that I do not ascribe any ill will to Buck or anything like that, but I think if he was asked a question he would have given a straight answer.

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I respect the hell out of Buck as a person and as a baseball man. He was a big part of bringing winning back to the Orioles. Saying that, all leadership positions have a shelf life and Buck's was up here. I hope he gets a job with MLB because he really understands what's good for the game.

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