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Too hard to quote whjoe on my phone...

 

2017 is as much an anomaly as 2018. He's not a .340 hitter, 1.091. Anymore than he is .150/0.480 . He's probably about the average of the two. Both are rougly 1/4 of a full season. Small sample size, standard (tho wild) deviation.

If anything I think  his  injury  hurt him  last year. 

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I think the team will do whatever the analytics tell us.  The evaluation of every player is going to change. Maybe Bundy has tons of untapped potential. Or maybe his value is at its highest right now. 

I think the intention of the team is to be really bad and stockpile top top draft picks

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On 11/13/2018 at 8:56 AM, whjoe said:

Mancini got hurt and was not the same for 3 months. Remember the slide under the fence. Dipped again in September. I don't think this guy would ever let on or use that as an excuse. He was nowhere near as good this year with RISP as he was last year. Big drop. Was it the injury/slump or having zero in the line up so not seeing as many fat pitches? Pressing? All 3?              What do you guys think?

I don't think he was hurt that much. He hit well after the supposed injury, then flatlined. 

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Maybe hold onto Bundy for part of the year, but move him to the pen where he can raise his value before being traded. No one on this team is going to help us win a championship. Trade 'em all. I'd rather win 55 next season and have the 1:1 than win 65 and draft later.

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Just now, mdbdotcom said:

Maybe hold onto Bundy for part of the year, but move him to the pen where he can raise his value before being traded. No one on this team is going to help us win a championship. Trade 'em all. I'd rather win 55 next season and have the 1:1 than win 65 and draft later.

Why would a reliever be worth more than a starter?

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Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Why would a reliever be worth more than a starter?

A good reliever is worth more than a starter with a 5+ ERA. I think Bundy could excel in a relief role, especially if he took the governor off his fastball and threw without fear.

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3 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

A good reliever is worth more than a starter with a 5+ ERA. I think Bundy could excel in a relief role, especially if he took the governor off his fastball and threw without fear.

First off you are assuming he pitches to a 5 run ERA going forward, secondly you are assuming he would excel in a relief role.  Bundy pitched in relief his rookie year, I would not say he excelled.

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57 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

First off you are assuming he pitches to a 5 run ERA going forward, secondly you are assuming he would excel in a relief role.  Bundy pitched in relief his rookie year, I would not say he excelled.

I am assuming that no one wants him now because he pitched to a 5+  ERA last year. Yes, I am assuming that he would excel in a relief role. I could be wrong, but I'd chance it.

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4 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

I am assuming that no one wants him now because he pitched to a 5+  ERA last year. Yes, I am assuming that he would excel in a relief role. I could be wrong, but I'd chance it.

9.6 k/9 last season.

7.3 k/9 career in the pen.  Reliever ERA of 2.95 isn't excellent.

I don't see data to your theories.

 

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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

9.6 k/9 last season.

7.3 k/9 career in the pen.  Reliever ERA of 2.95 isn't excellent.

I don't see data to your theories.

 

They aren't theories, just opinions. He's gained a lot of experience he can leverage now that he didn't have as a rookie in the pen. 

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