Attendance 2019

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, TonySoprano said:

We went to Nationals Park tonight.  A few minutes before the game, it looked like an Orioles-sized (small) crowd.  They must arrive late because the place filled up pretty well along the baselines, upper and lower decks.  Only LF, where we were sitting, had a lot of empty seats.   Announced crowd a little under 25K;, not many O's fans made the trip.    Before the game, Severino had a game of catch with a young Nats fan, who was in the stands close to the fence.

Good guys 2 - Nats 0

Glad you were there to represent.    Until the last couple of years, O’s fans would usually be 30-40% of the crowd at these games in DC, and often louder than the Nats fans.    There’s just not a lot of enthusiasm right now, understandably.    Hopefully that turns around as the team does.   

[eddie83]

6 hours ago, theocean said:

Drew Brees isn't a particularly exciting personality. He's really popular and a face of the NFL. So, I don't buy the "players are boring" take. MLB just needs to be better at marketing the very good players they have already.

He is a star QB in a sport that only plays 16 games. 

The two sports can’t be compared. Reggie Jackson was popular/hated because he was a big personality who America saw in the playoffs all the time. Everyone sees Brees all the time. 

[survivedc]

10 hours ago, TonySoprano said:

We went to Nationals Park tonight.  A few minutes before the game, it looked like an Orioles-sized (small) crowd.  They must arrive late because the place filled up pretty well along the baselines, upper and lower decks.  Only LF, where we were sitting, had a lot of empty seats.   Announced crowd a little under 25K;, not many O's fans made the trip.    Before the game, Severino had a game of catch with a young Nats fan, who was in the stands close to the fence.

Good guys 2 - Nats 0

Nats fans seem to show up late and leave early. 

 

[Slappy]

18 hours ago, Frobby said:

And this may just be the dinosaur in me talking, but I don’t think the lack of personalities is baseball’s big problem.    The slowing down of the game and reduction of plays where athleticism is on display is a much bigger issue, I think.    

I totally agree with this, and I think baseball's real solution to its length-of-game and lack-of-interest problems are finding ways to get the ball in play more.  Length of game is closely correlated to the rise in K's and BB's.

[Going Underground]

On 8/28/2019 at 10:13 AM, survivedc said:

Nats fans seem to show up late and leave early. 

 

Or show up at all. Maybe Nats can move to Nashville.  I know that the Orioles charging Prime for giveaways  seems wrong,but the Nationals charging Prime for a weekday series against the Orioles is asinine. I know the phony Battle of the Beltways hype but the Orioles will probably lose 100 games two years in a row.. Also charging Prime against the horrible  Marlins because the games fell on a holiday is stupid. I doubt the Baltimore media would do a fair assessment  of the  Orioles and attendance and pricing. 

 

What they have right now, too, is a fan base that isn’t reaching for its wallet to push them through this pennant race.

Here’s what we know: With Monday’s crowd of 25,329 — which includes all those wearing Mets gear — the Nationals are drawing 27,944 fans per game. Only four teams in the National League — Arizona, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and criminally bad Miami — have fewer people showing up to their games than the scorching-toward-the-postseason Nats. That’s down — and significantly — from last year’s average of 31,230, a 10 percent drop. The Nats are on pace to draw fewer people than in any season since 2011, not only before they had won a division title but before they had so much as had a winning year.

This isn’t a science. The Nats, like most teams, structure pricing of their tickets in tiers. Opening Day has, across the board, the highest prices — and that’s by far Nationals Park’s largest crowd of the year: 42,263. That one date is impervious to pricing. Washington is an event city. Opening Day is an event. Boom! Sellout.

Since then, the Nationals have hosted 26 dates that qualify as a “prime” or “marquee” tier. Although the Nats also change ticket prices over the course of the year based on demand — meaning, say, a ticket for the same seat to Monday’s game might have cost more April 1 than it did Aug. 1 — they identify the games that fans are likely to seek out and charge more. Gouging? No. Supply and demand? Yes.

But what if you misread the demand? Of the 26 home dates with higher prices since the opener — including Monday, which was a “prime” game — the Nats have drawn fewer than their average 11 times. The two games last week against the Baltimore Orioles — crowds of 24,946 and 25,174 — fall into that category. So do Memorial Day and Fourth of July games against Miami, potentially big baseball days when only 21,048 and 27,350 turned out, respectively.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/the-nationals-have-been-fun-for-months-now-but-you-wouldnt-know-it-by-looking-at-the-stands/2019/09/02/66ac9f02-cdab-11e9-8c1c-7c8ee785b855_story.html

 

[MCO'sFan]

On 8/28/2019 at 10:13 AM, survivedc said:

Nats fans seem to show up late and leave early. 

 

This... Nats fans stink!!!

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, Going Underground said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/the-nationals-have-been-fun-for-months-now-but-you-wouldnt-know-it-by-looking-at-the-stands/2019/09/02/66ac9f02-cdab-11e9-8c1c-7c8ee785b855_story.html

My big takeaway from this is that the post-2014 drop in attendance for the O’s has little or nothing to do with the Nats, since our drop is not leading to gains for them.     The Nats had a significant impact on our attendance, but that impact is not growing.    Our drops in attendance post-2014 are our own doing.   

[Redskins Rick]

Pirates had maybe 1,000 people in the stands for a regular season game.

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2019/09/05/thursday-hot-clicks-pirates-marlins-pnc-park-attendance

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WALK. IT. OFF!!!#RaiseIt pic.twitter.com/EsZbpbVTzA

— Pirates (@Pirates) September 5, 2019

The official attendance for the game was 9,043, which would have been 24% of PNC Park’s capacity. But there couldn’t have been more than, what, 1,000 people actually in the stands? That’s unbelievable. 

MLB has an attendance issue across most of baseball.

[Going Underground]

1 hour ago, Redskins Rick said:

Pirates had maybe 1,000 people in the stands for a regular season game.

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2019/09/05/thursday-hot-clicks-pirates-marlins-pnc-park-attendance

MLB has an attendance issue across most of baseball.

Yes they do.Paid attendance for tonight's Oriole  game? Over/under 9,000?

[Going Underground]

7 hours ago, Going Underground said:

Yes they do.Paid attendance for tonight's Oriole  game? Over/under 9,000?

8,209,so should have taken the under.How many really at game?

[atomic]

On 9/5/2019 at 10:53 AM, Redskins Rick said:

Pirates had maybe 1,000 people in the stands for a regular season game.

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2019/09/05/thursday-hot-clicks-pirates-marlins-pnc-park-attendance

MLB has an attendance issue across most of baseball.

Analytics have killed the game.  The thought that strike outs don't matter and batting average isn't important, steals aren't important and everyone swinging for the fences has destroyed the game. It is boring.  Plus all the pitching changes.  

The median age of baseball fans is now over 55.  They need to make drastic changes or they won't have any fans left in 20 years.  

[Redskins Rick]

15 hours ago, Going Underground said:

8,209,so should have taken the under.How many really at game?

So much for $30 Sept solving the attendance problem.

 

[25 Nuggets]

1 hour ago, atomic said:

Analytics have killed the game.  The thought that strike outs don't matter and batting average isn't important, steals aren't important and everyone swinging for the fences has destroyed the game. It is boring.  Plus all the pitching changes.  

The median age of baseball fans is now over 55.  They need to make drastic changes or they won't have any fans left in 20 years.  

It's a lot bigger than whatever influence analytics has.

[Redskins Rick]

1 minute ago, 25 Nuggets said:

It's a lot bigger than whatever influence analytics has.

it is.

Baseball can be execuriating slow game to watch at times.

The current kids and the younger generations are into the electronics and faster paced games.

They have next to no interest in watching a nine inning game.

 

[maybenxtyr]

19 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

it is.

Baseball can be execuriating slow game to watch at times.

The current kids and the younger generations are into the electronics and faster paced games.

They have next to no interest in watching a nine inning game.

There's also some envy, or whatever you want to call it. 

Why, or how can a working class family justify spending good money on watching a sport where players don't really have to perform up to a standard but still get paid?