Rule 5 eligible players

[weams]

 

[Enjoy Terror]

2 hours ago, MurphDogg said:

Add Alex Wells and Yusniel Diaz and you pretty much have everyone.

Wells and Diaz shoulda been this year, no? They both had their fourth years already.

EDIT: sort of a dumb statement by me since they didn’t protect Diaz... but why?

[MurphDogg]

9 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:

Wells and Diaz shoulda been this year, no? They both had their fourth years already.

EDIT: sort of a dumb statement by me since they didn’t protect Diaz... but why?

As for Wells, he was signed at age 18, so he got a 5th year as well.

[Legend_Of_Joey]

11 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:

Wells and Diaz shoulda been this year, no? They both had their fourth years already.

EDIT: sort of a dumb statement by me since they didn’t protect Diaz... but why?

Roch mentioned it somewhere, but Diaz doesn't have to be protected until next year, same as Wells.

[wildcard]

On 11/21/2019 at 8:49 AM, weams said:

 

Luke, what can you tell us about Brandon Bailey?   

None of the Rule 5 eligible pitchers I have seen are ready to be starters in the majors.   That is not surprising.  But Zack Brown looks like he could be a multi inning reliever.    I am interested  in what pitches Brandon Bailey throws and how they are rated.

Thank in advance

[Luke-OH]

4 hours ago, doccat said:

RHP Zach Brown.   Unbelievable that Milwaukee didn't protect him...    Also like Nats pitcher Sterling Sharp...   With the roster now able to have 26, seems you could easily stash in the pen if Starting doesn't pan out...

 

 

I just watched some Brown from this year, it’s not anything too exciting. Yeah, the curve and change are pretty good, but the fastball is like 90-94 and doesn’t play on the plate.

[Luke-OH]

 

3 hours ago, wildcard said:

Luke, what can you tell us about Brandon Bailey?   

None of the Rule 5 eligible pitchers I have seen are ready to be starters in the majors.   That is not surprising.  But Zack Brown looks like he could be a multi inning reliever.    I am interested  in what pitches Brandon Bailey throws and how they are rated.

Thank in advance

Bailey is like Brown but with a premium spin rate fastball and 5 quality pitches. He has a 12-6 curve and a really good changeup. He’s a reliever or opener type who just hasn’t been moved to that role yet. His issues are holding stuff and flyball tendencies. Moving to a different role would let the fastball sit 93-94 where it’s unique plane and + ride would play much better.

I agree there isn’t any real MLB ready starters available. The best chance for a non-stash #5/6 starter seems like

Ljay Newsome - kind of like a slightly lesser RH Lowther with a whippy arm action that’s tough to pick up

Sterling Sharp - Low 90s sinkerballer, GB machine, above average slider, athletic

Steven Fuentes- mediocre stuff command guy, barrel missing life on the 90-94 mph fastball. 

Leo Crawford - kind of like another Nestor Cortes but a little more stuff but further away

Anthony Misieswicz - athletic 4 pitch lefty with blah velocity but solid offspeed stuff, strong finish in PCL

Griffin Jax - Command and feel righty 90-92, average-ish offspeed, probably gives up too much contact, pitch efficient strikethrower

Luke Bachar - basically Sedlock’s stuff with a better arm action and more stamina but less pedigree and lesser 4th pitch

[Frobby]

14 hours ago, 7Mo said:

Another article on Reed from May 2019. 

The first 33 games of 2019 have featured a paltry .205/.282/.410 slash as a 24-year-old in Double-A. An 84 wRC+ despite being slightly older than his average competition in the Texas League. Those numbers often describe a prospect afterthought, especially with most statistical categories beginning to normalize.

Yet, a look under the hood suggests Reed is on the verge of a breakout that could make him a hot commodity throughout the prospect community before the end of the regular season.

https://prospects365.com/2019/05/18/buddy-reed-and-buying-before-a-breakout/

Well, I wouldn’t say he had a breakout the rest of the year.   He hit .229/.321/.379 the rest of the way.    

[weams]

 

[7Mo]

6 hours ago, Frobby said:

Well, I wouldn’t say he had a breakout the rest of the year.   He hit .229/.321/.379 the rest of the way.    

I was just adding some information. I'm not a believer in Reed. 

[Frobby]

5 minutes ago, 7Mo said:

I was just adding some information. I'm not a believer in Reed. 

Yeah, I was just reacting to the quote, not to you.

[Number5]

2 hours ago, weams said:

 

Sterling Sharp on the Nationals looks interesting to me.  He was also mentioned in both lists Luke posted above.

"Nationals: Sterling Sharp, RHP (No. 13) - An oblique injury cost Sharp roughly three months during the middle of the season, but the former 22nd-round pick (2016) returned to make nine Double-A starts, then continued to make up for lost time in the Arizona Fall League. The best athlete in Washington’s system and one of the premier ground-ball artists in the Minor Leagues, Sharp could be appealing to a club looking for either rotation or bullpen depth."

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=643532#/career/R/pitching/2019/ALL

 

I also find it interesting that the Tigers, of all teams, would leave a player like Jacob Robson exposed.  He looks like a guy to consider, IMO.

"Tigers: Jacob Robson, OF (No. 27) - Robson, 25, reached Triple-A for the first time during a 2018 breakout campaign, only to take a step back offensively last season in his return to the level. He still managed to produce a .267/.352/.399 line across 112 games, totaling 33 extra-base hits and a career-high 25 steals. Robson’s combination of hitting ability and speed, along with his ability to play all three outfield positions, could make him an interesting Rule 5 option for a team seeking a fourth outfielder."

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=615699#/career/R/hitting/2019/ALL

[7Mo]

Adding info on Robson:

Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 30 | Run: 65 | Arm: 45 | Field: 50 | Overall: 40

The Tigers made Robson their eighth-round pick in the 2016 Draft after an injury-plagued career at Mississippi State that included a broken hand as a redshirt junior. Pegged by the organization as a breakout candidate ahead of his first full season, Robson did just that by reaching the Florida State League and finishing third in the system in batting average (.305) and fifth in stolen bases (21). The Ontario native then built upon the performance in 2018, hitting both for average and even some power as he climbed from Double-A to Triple-A.

Robson's best tool is his speed and it allows him to be a basestealing threat as well as a defensive asset in the outfield. He has played all three spots thus far, with his best chance to be a regular coming in center or left, where his fringy arm would be acceptable. He has shown a solid approach at the plate and a willingness to draw walks, and he added some power to his game in 2018 with career-high totals in home runs (11) and doubles (29), albeit at the cost of more strikeouts (140). The Tigers continue to stress bunting as a tool to help him let his legs do the talking.

Robson profiles best as a fourth outfielder or bench presence, one whose speed can do a lot of things. If he can continue to refine his approach and get on base, he could be a table-setting type at the highest level.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/jacob-robson-615699?stats=career-r-hitting-milb

It looks like Robson may have more to offer on the offensive side of the game than first expected, though. Here’s what Emily Waldon of The Athletic had to say in her preseason Tigers Top 30 Prospects list:

With his defensive instincts already common knowledge, the more refreshing aspect to Robson’s season was his deceptive push of raw power. At 5-foot-10, you wouldn’t predict that, but his natural eye at the plate complemented the added power on contact.

As the numbers referenced earlier would indicate, Robson utilized a newfound power stroke in 2018. If this new facet of his game is for real, that would obviously boost his value immensely. There will always be a place in the game for players with both power and speed. Even if he only makes minimal contact, that combination of attributes makes for a decent bench piece.

a look at his batting average on balls in play would indicate that, to a certain extent, Robson was getting lucky in 2018. An normal batting average on balls in play would hover around .300. Speedsters generally are able to pad that number thanks to their ability to beat out throws. Robson’s figures, though, were very high. He put up rates of .382 and .406 in 2018. Frankly, those are inflated and unsustainable. As they normalize, the rest of his stats will obviously suffer. To what extent, though, will determine his role.

Finally, while his speed makes him an asset on defense, his arm limits his defensive flexibility to center and left. It’s far from a death knell as a prospect, and he doesn’t profile well in right field offensively anyway, but it does limit his versatility.

https://www.blessyouboys.com/2019/1/25/17048116/detroit-tigers-scouting-report-jake-robson-farm-system

[Frobby]

9 minutes ago, 7Mo said:

Adding info on Robson:

Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 30 | Run: 65 | Arm: 45 | Field: 50 | Overall: 40

The Tigers made Robson their eighth-round pick in the 2016 Draft after an injury-plagued career at Mississippi State that included a broken hand as a redshirt junior. Pegged by the organization as a breakout candidate ahead of his first full season, Robson did just that by reaching the Florida State League and finishing third in the system in batting average (.305) and fifth in stolen bases (21). The Ontario native then built upon the performance in 2018, hitting both for average and even some power as he climbed from Double-A to Triple-A.

Robson's best tool is his speed and it allows him to be a basestealing threat as well as a defensive asset in the outfield. He has played all three spots thus far, with his best chance to be a regular coming in center or left, where his fringy arm would be acceptable. He has shown a solid approach at the plate and a willingness to draw walks, and he added some power to his game in 2018 with career-high totals in home runs (11) and doubles (29), albeit at the cost of more strikeouts (140). The Tigers continue to stress bunting as a tool to help him let his legs do the talking.

Robson profiles best as a fourth outfielder or bench presence, one whose speed can do a lot of things. If he can continue to refine his approach and get on base, he could be a table-setting type at the highest level.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/jacob-robson-615699?stats=career-r-hitting-milb

It looks like Robson may have more to offer on the offensive side of the game than first expected, though. Here’s what Emily Waldon of The Athletic had to say in her preseason Tigers Top 30 Prospects list:

With his defensive instincts already common knowledge, the more refreshing aspect to Robson’s season was his deceptive push of raw power. At 5-foot-10, you wouldn’t predict that, but his natural eye at the plate complemented the added power on contact.

As the numbers referenced earlier would indicate, Robson utilized a newfound power stroke in 2018. If this new facet of his game is for real, that would obviously boost his value immensely. There will always be a place in the game for players with both power and speed. Even if he only makes minimal contact, that combination of attributes makes for a decent bench piece.

a look at his batting average on balls in play would indicate that, to a certain extent, Robson was getting lucky in 2018. An normal batting average on balls in play would hover around .300. Speedsters generally are able to pad that number thanks to their ability to beat out throws. Robson’s figures, though, were very high. He put up rates of .382 and .406 in 2018. Frankly, those are inflated and unsustainable. As they normalize, the rest of his stats will obviously suffer. To what extent, though, will determine his role.

Finally, while his speed makes him an asset on defense, his arm limits his defensive flexibility to center and left. It’s far from a death knell as a prospect, and he doesn’t profile well in right field offensively anyway, but it does limit his versatility.

https://www.blessyouboys.com/2019/1/25/17048116/detroit-tigers-scouting-report-jake-robson-farm-system

He was on the same AFL team as our guys and pitched well there.   

[weams]

30 minutes ago, Number5 said:

to take a step back offensively last season in his return to the level. He still managed to produce a .267/.352/.399 line across 112 games, totaling 33 extra-base hits and a career-high 25 steals. Robson’s combination of hitting ability and speed, along with his ability to play all three outfield positions, could make him an interesting Rule 5 option for a team seeking a fourth outfielder."

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=615699#/career/R/hitting/2019/ALL

Robson He's 25 and having trouble graduating AAA