Ok! Roster moves!

[DrungoHazewood]

1 hour ago, wildcard said:

Maybe its because he planted his face into the wall after catching a ball.  Then went through concussion protocol and the IL trying to put himself back together.  Then he had to find his swing again.   That might have something to do with why Elias/Hyde are cutting him so much slack.

I also think they don't want to use his last option this season.  They would rather bring him to ST to compete for a spot on the 26 man roster and if he doesn't make the team option him next season.   He can help  the AAA team is not the major league team.  And with most of the pitchers in Bowie  going to AAA next year it would be nice to have some offense at AAA to win games at that level.

Sure, getting a concussion may have had some impact on his hitting.

But I think that offensive support for next year's AAA pitchers gets less consideration than the kind of cookies they have on the postgame spread.  If you option Smith today you have to pass him through waivers next year.  Which won't be a big deal since he'll likely be a 27-year-old with a MLB career that's below replacement.  Smith had a nice little run to start the season, but Stewart is a better player.  Or at least has a great shot to be better. 

[HowAboutThat]

1 hour ago, wildcard said:

I also think they don't want to use his last option this season.  They would rather bring him to ST to compete for a spot on the 26 man roster and if he doesn't make the team option him next season.  

That’s an excellent point.

[OFFNY]

18 minutes ago, OFFNY said:

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Orioles Need More Relievers after Anaheim Marathon

(By Roch Kubatko)

https://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2019/07/orioles-need-more-relievers-after-last-nights-marathon-in-anaheim.html

 

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And of course, the other side is in a similar situation ........

 

Angels Use 10 Pitchers in a 16-Inning Marathon, but Lose to Orioles

(By Roch Kubatko)

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2019-07-26/angels-use-10-pitchers-but-lose-to-baltimore-10-8-in-16-innings

 

 

Angels Drain Pitching Staff in Marathon Loss to Orioles

(By Jeff Fletcher)

https://www.ocregister.com/2019/07/26/angels-drain-pitching-staff-in-marathon-loss-to-orioles/

 

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[DrungoHazewood]

1 minute ago, Philip said:

That’s an excellent point.

Why is it so hard to pass him through waivers next year?  And if someone claims him, just play Stewart, or one of the 100 other AAA outfielders who can OPS 90 in the majors with a -8 glove.

[HowAboutThat]

Just now, DrungoHazewood said:

Why is it so hard to pass him through waivers next year?  And if someone claims him, just play Stewart, or one of the 100 other AAA outfielders who can OPS 90 in the majors with a -8 glove.

 I think the most likely response to that is that they think he has something that they like to keep for now. All the options that you mention, remain possibilities for next year as well, but I guess they want to keep him for now. Probably because they don’t want to start the service clock, but I think “service time considerations” is just a way of saying, “we have no idea.”

[O's84]

2 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Cutting Davis is a better solution.  If you have a 16-inning game where Stevie Wilkerson gets a save, and Davis only gets in for half an inning on defense... it's time.

Well to be fair, they would have used Davis to pitch, but they were afraid he'd get injured and they didn't want to risk losing his big bat in the line up.

[weams]

30 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Sure, getting a concussion may have had some impact on his hitting.

But I think that offensive support for next year's AAA pitchers gets less consideration than the kind of cookies they have on the postgame spread.  If you option Smith today you have to pass him through waivers next year.  Which won't be a big deal since he'll likely be a 27-year-old with a MLB career that's below replacement.  Smith had a nice little run to start the season, but Stewart is a better player.  Or at least has a great shot to be better. 

This is a fantastic post. Unbelievably awesome. Just perfection. 

[wildcard]

40 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Sure, getting a concussion may have had some impact on his hitting.

But I think that offensive support for next year's AAA pitchers gets less consideration than the kind of cookies they have on the postgame spread.  If you option Smith today you have to pass him through waivers next year.  Which won't be a big deal since he'll likely be a 27-year-old with a MLB career that's below replacement.  Smith had a nice little run to start the season, but Stewart is a better player.  Or at least has a great shot to be better. 

It may be true that Smith is below replacement level at the moment but will he be in a month?  I am sure I don't know.

[OFFNY]

36 minutes ago, OFFNY said:

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And of course, the other side is in a similar situation ........

 

Angels Use 10 Pitchers in a 16-Inning Marathon, but Lose to Orioles

(By Roch Kubatko)

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2019-07-26/angels-use-10-pitchers-but-lose-to-baltimore-10-8-in-16-innings

 

 

Angels Drain Pitching Staff in Marathon Loss to Orioles

(By Jeff Fletcher)

https://www.ocregister.com/2019/07/26/angels-drain-pitching-staff-in-marathon-loss-to-orioles/

 

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Nick Tropeano will be replacing Griffin Canning for tonight's start, being that Canning threw 42 pitches in last night's marathon contest.

 

https://www.baseballpress.com/lineups

 

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[DrungoHazewood]

11 minutes ago, wildcard said:

It may be true that Smith is below replacement level at the moment but will he be in a month?  I am sure I don't know.

He has over 1800 plate appearances in AA and AAA with an OPS of about .740.  He has a MLB OPS of .745.  He's a -15 fielder in 128 MLB games.  He's 26, turns 27 in October. 

With a -20 glove per 150 games he's going to have to have an OPS significantly north of .800 to clear replacement.  His defense has been poor enough that his .833 OPS with the Jays was worth 0.0 wins.

Maybe Elias thinks he can change something, but the player Smith has been the last 3-4 years is pretty clearly below replacement and he's at an age where most players are done developing.

[DrungoHazewood]

23 minutes ago, weams said:

This is a fantastic post. Unbelievably awesome. Just perfection. 

That's a little hyperbolic.  I wouldn't put in my top 100, and I'm no Frobby.

[wildcard]

2 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

He has over 1800 plate appearances in AA and AAA with an OPS of about .740.  He has a MLB OPS of .745.  He's a -15 fielder in 128 MLB games.  He's 26, turns 27 in October. 

With a -20 glove per 150 games he's going to have to have an OPS significantly north of .800 to clear replacement.  His defense has been poor enough that his .833 OPS with the Jays was worth 0.0 wins.

Maybe Elias thinks he can change something, but the player Smith has been the last 3-4 years is pretty clearly below replacement and he's at an age where most players are done developing.

I will talk to you in a month about this.  The last 3-4 years he was not hitting a superball.

[weams]

3 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

That's a little hyperbolic.  I wouldn't put in my top 100, and I'm no Frobby.

It's the Alice's Restaurant of posts. And it required no psychotropics like the Gods of Baseball thread.

[Can_of_corn]

8 minutes ago, wildcard said:

I will talk to you in a month about this.  The last 3-4 years he was not hitting a superball.

The last 3-4 years everyone else was also not hitting a superball.

One thing about those superballs, you can still miss the cutoff man with them.

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, weams said:

It's the Alice's Restaurant of posts. And it required no psychotropics like the Gods of Baseball thread.

Semi-autobiographical, overly long and overrated?