I really want to keep Villar (Update: Traded to Marlins for LHS Easton Lucas)

[wildbillhiccup]

4 minutes ago, atomic said:

Mancini can't even play in the field.  How is he the best? 

Villar can't either. 

[7Mo]

1 minute ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Why would a team offer anything now? Sit back and wait for the Orioles to non tender him.

As Luke pointed out, if 2 or more teams claim him, they'd have to trade to get him.

[atomic]

6 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

I suspected for quite awhile that there were clubhouse issues with Villar when he was in Milwaukee. He's also an atrocious defender and below average base runner. The only scenario he would thrive in is if he played for a team that had nothing to lose and let him do whatever he wanted for a full season. That's exactly what happened last season. It certainly wouldn't happen on a good team. And Andrew Cashner is one of the worst pitchers in baseball. I'm amazed that anyone gave us anything for him. 

Elias inherited just about nothing in terms of viable trade pieces. The team made the decision to let a GM they had know intention of retaining trade Schoop and Gausman. Those pieces should have been left for Elias to deal with. 

Cashner was far from one of the worst pitchers in baseball.  You even saw guys like Hess, Wright and Straily.  This is hyperbole. 

[atomic]

5 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

Villar can't either. 

Villar isn't a golden glove player that is for sure.  But he isn't a butcher out there like Mancini. 

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Achilles.

Yea, didn't feel like looking it up.

Whichever, trading him instead of tendering him would have been the correct move.  As some of us stated at the time.

[Roll Tide]

7 minutes ago, 7Mo said:

Do you honestly fault Elias for Villar not being traded? I mean, instead of the idea that other teams aren't willing to give value for him?

Did you answer any of the above questions?

If he was going to DFA him in the offseason you take what is offered at the deadline that he refused. No we get nothing!

[Legend_Of_Joey]

1 minute ago, 7Mo said:

As Luke pointed out, if 2 or more teams claim him, they'd have to trade to get him.

Then what? The teams could offer less than what was offered in July with "take it or leave it" stance.

[HowAboutThat]

1 hour ago, Roll Tide said:

Small consolation huh? This is a new alltime low by the Angelos team.

So we are now the Rays!

The Rays have pitching.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Roll Tide said:

Did you answer any of the above questions?

If he was going to DFA him in the offseason you take what is offered at the deadline that he refused. No we get nothing!

That works great in hindsight land. 

In the real world, not as well.

[Legend_Of_Joey]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Yea, didn't feel like looking it up.

Whichever, trading him instead of tendering him would have been the correct move.  As some of us stated at the time.

You get credit for atleast remembering it was a leg injury, with all those recipes taking up space in that brain.

[7Mo]

1 minute ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Then what? The teams could offer less than what was offered in July with "take it or leave it" stance.

What was offered in July?

[Legend_Of_Joey]

1 minute ago, Philip said:

The Rays have pitching.

So do the Orioles.

Just, you know, they aren't as good.

[7Mo]

1 minute ago, Roll Tide said:

Did you answer any of the above questions?

If he was going to DFA him in the offseason you take what is offered at the deadline that he refused. No we get nothing!

So you think Elias decided in July to DFA him today?

And what did he refuse in July?

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

You get credit for atleast remembering it was a leg injury, with all those recipes taking up space in that brain.

It's more information about obscure bands to be honest. 

[HowAboutThat]

1 hour ago, Roll Tide said:

Elias has made zero trades since taking over. Including Cashner for a couple of bags of balls. He's done nothing with the international money. He doesnt get credit for Rutschman as anyone couldve made that pick.

Now he's proved he can't get value out of trading our best player

Takes two to tango. Mike can’t trade him if no one wants him at the price.

Edited November 27, 2019 by Philip
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