Bundy traded to Angels for Isaac Mattson, Kyle Bradish, Zach Peek, and Kyle Brnovich

[Aristotelian]

3 hours ago, ChrisP said:

I hope that was dripping with sarcasm.

I honestly couldn't tell.

[Philip]

45 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

 I doubt anyone views him as a future starter.  

Dan did.

[weams]

1 minute ago, Roll Tide said:

So .... Just thinking out loud .... You lose 4 wins with Villar plus the wins below replacement for the rule 5 A level ballplayer that is no where near ready to play at the majors. Richie Martin was -.6 and played at AA. So this guy is proabably be worse.

And Bundy was worth 2.3 and David Hess was worth -1.1

So you've just lost 8+ games

I hope you understand that it doesn't work like that. It's just a data format to evaluate approximately with. It is not a version of how many wins are actually created. 

[Roll Tide]

4 minutes ago, Philip said:

After watching some of his on field interaction with the pitchers and some other players, I get the impression That Sucre wasn’t terribly easy to deal with.

I'd think you'd agree that our pitchers needed some tough love.

[Aristotelian]

3 hours ago, eddie83 said:

This rotation will be fun to watch this year. We may let up most runs in history.  

I get what they are doing. Outside of Mancini there is nothing else to move.  

You have to think based on the approach so far that Mancini is available for the right price.

[weams]

Just now, Aristotelian said:

You have to think based on the approach so far that Mancini is available for the right price.

Considering that Elias said so today, yes. 

[Roll Tide]

Just now, weams said:

I hope you understand that it doesn't work like that. It's just a data format to evaluate approximately with. It is not a version of how many wins are actually created. 

Well actually I was half kidding....  I remember Villar scoring the winning run a few times and even a walk off or two. I am placing the over/under at 50 games. If they move Mancini you can probably add another 4 or 5 to that

[weams]

Just now, RZNJ said:

Were you complaining that Elias is a "numbers" guy?  

That's funny any way you look at it. He was a major college pitcher. Considered for some draft boards before injury. A hands on scout. A director of amateur scouting and a VP of player development and minor league operations. 

Yeah he can count. He was an Ivy Leaguer.

[Roll Tide]

3 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Were you complaining that Elias is a "numbers" guy?  

NO .... He is a numbers guy! And I'm okay with that.

[weams]

1 minute ago, Roll Tide said:

Well actually I was half kidding....  I remember Villar scoring the winning run a few times and even a walk off or two. I am placing the over/under at 50 games. If they move Mancini you can probably add another 4 or 5 to that

A win above replacement does not equate to an actual win. 

[Roll Tide]

1 minute ago, weams said:

That's funny any way you look at it. He was a major college pitcher. Considered for some draft boards before injury. A hands on scout. A director of amateur scouting and a VP of player development and minor league operations. 

Yeah he can count. He was an Ivy Leaguer.

But I never complained about his math skills. You know what my complaints were based on the threads. It had everything to do with negotiating and that kind of stuff.

[Roll Tide]

1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

There is a low bar for the right price.  Less than the Bundy return.

I know many think Trey has low value to based on the fact that he's a 1B  and poor OF. But I happen to think he's worth more than we git for Villar and Bundy combined.

[weams]

1 minute ago, Roll Tide said:

But I never complained about his math skills. You know what my complaints were based on the threads. It had everything to do with negotiating and that kind of stuff.

I know that sir. 

[weams]

Just now, Roll Tide said:

I know many think Trey has low value to based on the fact that he's a 1B  and poor OF. But I happen to think he's worth more than we git for Villar and Bundy combined.

I suspect a similar return to Bundy. 

[Philip]

What are the folks in Anaheim saying?