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Mancini avoids arbitration, signs for $4.75M


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So, another offseason hurdle out of the way.   What do we have to look forward to now, besides of course the possibility that exists almost any time for a major or minor league free agent signing, trade, or waiver pickup?

Next week:  minicamp in Sarasota

Sometime in the next few weeks:  announcement of what non-40-man-roster players will receive invites to spring training

Feburary 11:  pitchers and catchers report

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2 minutes ago, SteveA said:

So, another offseason hurdle out of the way.   What do we have to look forward to now, besides of course the possibility that exists almost any time for a major or minor league free agent signing, trade, or waiver pickup?

Next week:  minicamp in Sarasota

Sometime in the next few weeks:  announcement of what non-40-man-roster players will receive invites to spring training

Feburary 11:  pitchers and catchers report

There’s that catcher that is close to signing a MiLB deal. ?

 

 

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8 minutes ago, weams said:

Frobby right as usual. Guess the new metric was killing him. 

Just a bad estimate from MLBTR.     It never made any sense, nor does Mancini’s.    But I’ve been watching the other results and it’s not as though they’re systematically too high.    A few guys have signed for more than their estimate today, most notably Lindor who got $17.5 mm, $800 k more than MLBTR projected.  

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In a recent MLBTR chat, the moderator explained that while the algorithm is usually a pretty good indicator, there could be circumstances that could cause it to under or overestimate an amount.  They admitted that Mancini was likely to come in under their projection.  Right handedness and below average defense in the outfield and teams lack of desire for that skill set lowered his value.

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17 minutes ago, NCRaven said:

In a recent MLBTR chat, the moderator explained that while the algorithm is usually a pretty good indicator, there could be circumstances that could cause it to under or overestimate an amount.  They admitted that Mancini was likely to come in under their projection.  Right handedness and below average defense in the outfield and teams lack of desire for that skill set lowered his value.

I think the key point here is the the MLBTR estimates are based on an algorithm.  There is no human judgment applied.    I don’t know what the inputs to the algorithm are, but I usually just look at comps to make my guesses.    You don’t find anyone like Mancini making $5.7 mm as a first year Arb guy.    Frankly, you see a lot of numbers in the $3-4 mm range.    But Mancini has a better case than most of the comps I’ve come up with, so I think the gets $4.5 mm or so.

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57 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

 

Frobby is correct again!

Honestly, it wasn’t rocket science to see that the Villar and Mancini estimates were way high.    But hopefully people will remember this next year when MLBTR comes out with it’s estimates — just because MLBTR says it doesn’t make it so.

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