Orioles make an offer to Yasiel Puig. UPDATE: Puig to sign with Braves Tests POSITIVE for COVID 19

[Ruzious]

2 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

How much do you think it would cost to get him?

 

Ok I see you've had that discussion.  $1.7 million should have basically zero effect on whatever else they do.  

[Yardball85]

For all his antics, Puig seems like a good guy.  For whatever that's worth.

https://www.12up.com/posts/video-indians-yasiel-puig-spent-his-day-off-in-new-york-hanging-out-with-children-battling-cancer-01djqw16ge7f

 

[Yardball85]

https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-puig-shaved-head-20180126-story.html

[jerios55]

48 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

If you can get him for beans, do it.  We got guys like Dwight Smith and Stewart... never worry about blocking players like that.  And with Mancini out for the year, ya gotta present a legitimate major league team.  Puig is almost certainly not the next Nelson Cruz, but he's a decent ML starter, and the fans are owed a legitimate product on the field.   

This.  Until we know the $$, IDK how you can decide either way.  Maybe they think they can get him for a million or less.  Maybe they expected to spend their full draft allotment and negotiations just went better.  Maybe they think they can trade Puig for someones 2020 5th rounder they liked...

Who knows, but at the right deal it could make sense.  And I can't imagine this year we have any intention of spending much to acquire him.  ME didn't just change his whole philosophy for one guy.  I'd imagine it's an extreme buy low possibility that has reached a point of value.

 

[Sports Guy]

41 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

The talk is that they are quarantined right now.

All the more reason.  It probably won’t effect them physically that much, if at all but mentally, it could and they may not “feel safe” coming back to play, especially for such a short period of time.

[Aristotelian]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

His career high for salary is 9.7M.  A QO last seasons was 17.8M.

Puig also has multiple 4+ WAR seasons worth perhaps $30M annually. Cruz turned a good contract year into 4/$57M at age 34 (Puig will be 30 in 2021). I am not saying this is the most likely outcome, just a possible upside scenario with Cruz being "proof of concept". If Puig puts up 30 HR with decent defense and 4 WAR, he would certainly be in for a long term contract in that territory. 

In a short season with prorated salaries, it seems like grabbing free agents in hopes of flipping in trade or QO is a pretty good value bet proposition. Cruz cost us $8M investment. Puig might be a fraction of that with the same upside potential. 

[Can_of_corn]

11 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Puig also has multiple 4+ WAR seasons worth perhaps $30M annually. Cruz turned a good contract year into 4/$57M at age 34 (Puig will be 30 in 2021). I am not saying this is the most likely outcome, just a possible upside scenario with Cruz being "proof of concept". If Puig puts up 30 HR with decent defense and 4 WAR, he would certainly be in for a long term contract in that territory. 

In a short season with prorated salaries, it seems like grabbing free agents in hopes of flipping in trade or QO is a pretty good value bet proposition. Cruz cost us $8M investment. Puig might be a fraction of that with the same upside potential. 

Cruz was signed to be part of a contending team.

[PHRESH]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Cruz was signed to be part of a contending team.

We are currently tied for 1st place. 

[weams]

2 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Cruz was signed to be part of a contending team.

And he cost a big draft pick.

[Can_of_corn]

9 minutes ago, weams said:

And he cost a big draft pick.

Second rounder.

[Aristotelian]

3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Cruz was signed to be part of a contending team.

O's signed Iglesias this year as a stopgap for about the same money as Puig might take. 

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, weams said:

And he cost a big draft pick.

Which we got back the next year when he signed with Seattle, and turned into Mountcastle.   

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

O's signed Iglesias this year as a stopgap for about the same money as Puig might take. 

That was for a full season, not 60 games.  Also Puig isn't a need like a SS was.

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Rk.	Player	Team	BBE	LA (°)	SwSp%	Max	Avg	FB/LD	GB	Max	Avg	Avg HR	95 MPH+	%	#	Brls/BBE %	Brls/PA %
1	Judge, Aaron		238	11.4	39.9	118.1	95.9	99.5	91.7	467	199	396	136	57.1	48	20.2	10.7
2	Sano, Miguel		222	15.9	36.0	114.2	94.4	99.6	89.0	482	206	415	127	57.2	47	21.2	10.7
3	Cruz, Nelson		326	13.1	38.3	117.0	93.7	99.2	89.0	473	197	411	168	51.5	65	19.9	12.5
4	Reyes, Franmil		345	9.5	33.3	115.0	93.3	98.2	88.6	457	181	408	176	51.0	51	14.8	9.3
5	Yelich, Christian		374	11.2	33.2	117.9	93.1	96.7	90.6	462	184	407	182	49.1	59	15.8	10.2
6	Donaldson, Josh		396	13.3	33.3	114.2	92.9	98.1	89.0	443	184	406	198	50.0	62	15.7	9.4
7	Ohtani, Shohei		278	6.8	31.7	115.1	92.8	97.0	89.0	447	163	406	131	47.1	34	12.2	8.0
8	Moncada, Yoan		361	12.0	40.4	115.8	92.8	95.5	91.2	462	185	406	173	47.9	44	12.2	7.9
9	Schwarber, Kyle		379	15.0	35.6	117.6	92.7	97.9	88.5	473	197	406	193	51.2	55	14.5	9.0
10	Soler, Jorge		415	15.4	34.7	115.7	92.6	97.2	88.8	465	199	414	207	49.9	70	16.9	10.3
11	Chapman, Matt		439	16.3	25.5	114.4	92.6	97.1	90.8	453	185	408	210	48.7	54	12.3	8.1
12	Bell, Josh		416	13.0	34.9	116.2	92.3	96.1	89.8	474	186	411	193	47.1	53	12.7	8.6
13	Alvarez, Yordan		221	13.4	39.8	117.9	92.2	96.6	86.6	474	202	411	107	48.9	38	17.2	10.3
14	Abreu, Jose		492	10.9	35.2	117.9	92.1	96.1	89.7	462	168	405	237	48.2	63	12.8	9.1
15	Devers, Rafael		531	10.3	33.1	115.0	92.1	96.3	89.3	458	176	403	252	47.5	48	9.0	6.8
16	Olson, Matt		346	18.3	36.4	111.9	91.9	97.1	87.0	450	203	400	170	50.3	50	14.5	9.1
17	Ozuna, Marcell		372	13.5	33.6	115.3	91.8	96.3	88.5	455	179	403	179	49.2	47	12.6	8.6
18	Santana, Carlos		467	11.8	29.1	112.8	91.8	93.5	91.9	426	171	396	209	44.9	45	9.6	6.6
19	Diaz, Yandy		250	5.7	34.0	114.3	91.7	97.0	89.2	428	162	389	112	44.8	26	10.4	7.5
20	LeMahieu, DJ		517	6.7	36.6	111.1	91.7	95.2	89.3	446	160	386	243	47.2	39	7.5	6.0
21	Kendrick, Howie		290	11.0	36.9	112.4	91.6	94.4	90.4	435	175	411	140	48.3	33	11.4	8.9
22	Hiura, Keston		208	16.0	38.0	112.4	91.4	95.1	88.6	442	191	402	100	50.0	29	13.9	8.3
23	Davis, J.D.		315	10.6	37.1	114.7	91.4	95.0	88.7	449	171	404	148	47.7	36	11.4	7.9
24	McMahon, Ryan		322	8.4	36.6	112.9	91.4	95.8	88.2	479	166	415	153	47.7	29	9.0	5.4
25	Santana, Danny		328	13.5	37.8	113.1	91.4	94.7	88.2	448	191	406	143	43.6	31	9.5	6.1
26	Harper, Bryce		399	13.1	37.6	116.4	91.3	96.9	84.9	466	196	411	182	45.6	59	14.8	8.7
27	Choo, Shin-Soo		399	8.7	32.1	111.8	91.3	96.7	87.5	461	161	410	195	49.0	35	8.8	5.3
28	Soto, Juan		416	12.0	36.3	112.8	91.3	97.0	85.1	443	191	403	199	47.8	51	12.3	7.7
29	Martinez, J.D.		442	12.5	41.9	112.6	91.3	95.0	87.6	434	191	402	206	46.7	53	12.0	8.1
30	Jimenez, Eloy		336	9.3	32.4	114.1	91.2	96.6	87.4	471	167	409	161	47.9	43	12.8	8.5
31	Braun, Ryan		357	7.1	33.6	111.7	91.2	95.6	88.9	443	163	404	159	45.0	35	9.8	6.9
32	Markakis, Nick		361	7.3	34.1	114.7	91.2	92.5	91.0	418	157	392	160	44.3	11	3.0	2.3
33	Machado, Manny		462	13.0	31.2	112.6	91.2	94.5	91.6	455	178	400	202	43.7	37	8.0	5.6
34	Garver, Mitch		226	15.3	33.6	109.7	91.1	97.2	84.8	443	199	400	113	50.0	35	15.5	9.7
35	Hernandez, Teoscar		265	15.5	30.6	112.1	91.1	96.2	86.6	450	191	401	112	42.3	31	11.7	6.7
36	Choi, Ji-Man		309	12.6	37.9	110.1	91.1	94.7	87.5	445	186	400	131	42.4	35	11.3	7.2
37	Walker, Christian		375	14.8	34.1	112.4	91.1	95.2	88.0	447	181	411	181	48.4	49	13.1	8.1
38	Dozier, Hunter		380	16.7	35.8	115.1	91.1	94.2	89.2	453	201	401	162	42.6	38	10.0	6.5
39	Sanchez, Gary		272	19.1	33.8	118.3	91.0	95.9	86.1	481	208	417	112	41.2	52	19.1	11.7
40	Cron, C.J.		353	12.7	34.3	115.9	91.0	96.1	87.6	453	186	404	156	44.6	53	15.0	10.6
41	Baez, Javier		377	7.6	36.3	114.1	91.0	96.1	86.5	460	172	404	163	43.6	48	12.7	8.6
42	Betts, Mookie		505	19.1	39.4	109.3	91.0	94.2	88.0	438	206	391	235	46.6	52	10.3	7.4
43	Pederson, Joc		341	15.3	31.7	113.7	90.9	96.0	87.7	454	179	399	146	43.5	35	10.3	6.8
44	Story, Trevor		417	17.3	36.5	111.8	90.9	93.8	90.0	459	197	414	191	45.8	36	8.6	5.5
45	Alfaro, Jorge		279	4.7	33.3	114.7	90.8	96.4	86.6	473	154	404	125	44.8	32	11.5	6.9
46	Cano, Robinson		324	7.3	33.6	112.1	90.8	93.2	89.9	429	161	401	149	46.0	24	7.4	5.7
47	Pham, Tommy		445	5.1	29.7	113.3	90.8	95.3	88.2	458	149	406	199	44.8	35	7.9	5.4
48	Tellez, Rowdy		257	14.0	37.0	115.2	90.7	94.5	87.2	455	191	406	107	41.8	34	13.2	8.3
49	Thames, Eric		258	18.6	36.4	110.5	90.7	93.4	87.2	432	209	396	110	43.8	24	9.3	5.2
50	Trout, Mike		354	22.2	44.1	116.6	90.7	94.9	84.2	473	233	419	154	44.3	66	18.6	11.0
51	Bellinger, Cody		455	17.6	40.0	110.6	90.7	95.0	85.4	442	207	405	205	45.5	59	13.0	8.9
52	Desmond, Ian		327	8.4	32.4	113.6	90.6	93.6	89.4	486	164	425	138	42.2	34	10.4	7.1
53	Alonso, Pete		417	14.8	37.4	118.3	90.6	96.5	85.9	474	189	414	174	42.3	66	15.8	9.5
54	Acuna Jr., Ronald		439	14.2	40.5	115.9	90.6	95.6	84.8	466	191	418	206	46.9	66	15.0	9.2
55	Bogaerts, Xander		498	13.1	35.3	112.4	90.6	94.0	88.5	451	183	398	217	43.7	43	8.6	6.2
56	Lindor, Francisco		507	11.9	29.8	113.5	90.6	93.7	89.5	437	174	397	205	40.6	38	7.5	5.8
57	O'Hearn, Ryan		231	13.0	29.9	111.2	90.5	95.8	88.1	440	175	403	101	43.7	21	9.1	5.7
58	Pollock, A.J.		238	13.9	29.8	108.1	90.5	93.8	88.9	429	173	398	95	39.9	19	8.0	5.6
59	Pinder, Chad		257	8.8	32.7	110.0	90.5	95.8	87.4	437	168	405	108	43.5	21	8.2	5.7
60	Urshela, Gio		359	13.6	37.6	113.3	90.5	94.1	87.7	461	185	407	145	40.6	25	7.0	5.3
61	Hosmer, Eric		461	2.1	29.1	114.3	90.5	94.1	88.6	431	137	402	212	46.0	33	7.2	4.9
62	Gonzalez, Marwin		328	10.6	35.4	109.2	90.4	94.5	87.3	437	172	403	143	43.7	21	6.4	4.5
63	Meadows, Austin		399	16.7	38.1	115.4	90.4	94.7	85.8	447	205	399	171	42.9	50	12.5	8.5
64	Rendon, Anthony		468	19.5	38.7	107.7	90.4	93.5	88.3	431	208	398	218	46.6	56	12.0	8.7
65	Smoak, Justin		309	16.8	37.5	110.8	90.3	93.7	87.4	438	205	401	122	39.5	34	11.0	6.8
66	Grandal, Yasmani		379	13.9	37.7	111.3	90.3	94.9	86.6	442	187	400	156	41.8	43	11.3	6.8
67	Cabrera, Miguel		390	12.2	38.5	111.4	90.3	92.4	89.1	453	172	396	173	44.6	25	6.4	4.6
68	Turner, Trea		410	9.7	29.8	113.5	90.3	93.1	89.5	453	158	408	170	41.5	28	6.8	4.9
69	Realmuto, J.T.		423	14.4	35.0	112.9	90.3	94.4	87.7	456	186	393	173	40.9	37	8.7	6.2
70	Mancini, Trey		464	7.8	36.4	113.9	90.3	95.8	85.7	438	172	404	198	42.7	48	10.3	7.1
71	Gurriel Jr., Lourdes		232	14.1	33.6	109.6	90.2	95.6	86.4	452	188	409	104	44.8	26	11.2	7.6
72	Turner, Justin		396	17.6	38.9	107.7	90.2	93.1	87.7	433	202	401	168	43.0	31	7.8	5.6
73	Peralta, David		296	6.4	29.1	113.2	90.1	94.5	88.0	448	149	409	121	40.9	16	5.4	3.8
74	Davis, Khris		337	13.2	32.0	109.9	90.1	95.2	85.4	432	183	396	132	40.2	34	10.1	6.4
75	Goldschmidt, Paul		434	15.3	36.6	111.5	90.1	94.5	86.2	464	198	411	182	42.4	49	11.3	7.2
76	d'Arnaud, Travis		272	14.6	33.8	113.1	90.0	93.6	87.6	453	180	405	108	39.7	21	7.7	5.4
77	Encarnacion, Edwin		318	22.5	34.6	113.0	90.0	94.4	87.4	442	204	401	131	42.0	40	12.6	8.2
78	Ramos, Wilson		407	0.0	26.0	111.0	90.0	93.7	88.8	427	119	390	171	42.2	19	4.7	3.6
79	Renfroe, Hunter		292	19.1	32.2	114.1	89.9	94.6	85.9	470	199	413	115	39.4	35	12.0	7.1
80	McCann, James		303	10.7	36.0	112.0	89.9	94.3	86.6	446	163	404	131	43.5	28	9.2	5.9
81	Anderson, Brian		348	11.1	31.3	114.4	89.9	94.6	86.7	446	172	397	159	45.7	31	8.9	6.0
82	Nunez, Renato		402	20.0	32.1	114.8	89.9	94.0	88.2	450	194	413	163	40.6	43	10.7	7.2
83	Puig, Yasiel		426	14.2	31.2	114.4	89.9	94.1	88.0	455	182	410	162	39.1	41	9.6	6.7
84	Swanson, Dansby		365	14.2	36.7	108.4	89.8	93.1	86.6	424	186	402	152	41.6	37	10.1	6.8
85	Springer, George		370	10.3	33.0	114.3	89.8	95.3	85.6	467	177	408	160	44.8	53	14.3	9.5
86	Marte, Ketel		485	11.5	34.6	116.3	89.8	93.5	87.3	482	174	407	194	40.0	45	9.3	7.2
87	Bote, David		212	7.7	34.9	113.8	89.7	93.1	87.8	469	162	404	77	36.3	12	5.7	3.4
88	Voit, Luke		288	12.8	39.9	112.6	89.7	95.4	82.6	470	184	410	116	40.4	38	13.2	7.5
89	Muncy, Max		342	14.2	39.8	110.1	89.7	94.4	84.3	464	195	404	147	43.4	42	12.3	7.1
90	Bradley Jr., Jackie		344	8.7	31.1	112.1	89.7	95.0	86.2	478	164	395	148	43.0	34	9.9	6.0
91	Longoria, Evan		346	14.0	35.8	110.3	89.7	93.2	86.8	438	184	406	141	40.8	26	7.5	5.1
92	Hoskins, Rhys		403	24.0	31.0	111.0	89.7	94.0	86.3	429	209	388	156	38.7	39	9.7	5.5
93	Kepler, Max		429	18.2	31.0	112.5	89.7	92.9	88.8	438	194	392	177	41.7	38	8.9	6.4
94	Freeman, Freddie		472	14.5	40.3	112.0	89.7	93.9	85.1	446	192	404	199	42.3	59	12.5	8.5
95	Tatis Jr., Fernando		227	6.9	33.5	115.9	89.6	95.8	84.3	468	164	405	100	44.1	30	13.2	8.1

[weams]

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