Jurickson Profar in - Cronenworth out ?

[ofan239]

Saw today Profar got resigned - I have to think that Cronenworth may now be available . This is they guy we need . Trade for him sign Villar and get a couple or pitchers and head to spring training . Again Elias should be all over this 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/01/padres-re-sign-jurickson-profar.html

[oriole]

May as well have Tatis thrown in the deal as well. Maybe both for DJ Stewart and Paul Fry?
 

[eddie83]

1 minute ago, oriole said:

May as well have Tatis thrown in the deal as well. Maybe both for DJ Stewart and Paul Fry?
 

I want Kurt Bevacqua myself.  

[Tony-OH]

14 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

I want Kurt Bevacqua myself.  

Just as a side note, Bevacqua's twitter can be a fun follow. The 1975 Bazooka bubble blowing champ can get quite animated. 

In another side note, Bevacqua was one of my favorite non-Orioles growing up for two reasons, his last name just seemed cool, and every year it seemed like he was on a new team when I saw his baseball card.

[LookinUp]

Seems like this could be a prelude to another Padres trade, this time with Cronenworth. Maybe the O's are a fit, like for real?

[Philip]

19 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Just as a side note, Bevacqua's twitter can be a fun follow. The 1975 Bazooka bubble blowing champ can get quite animated. 

In another side note, Bevacqua was one of my favorite non-Orioles growing up for two reasons, his last name just seemed cool, and every year it seemed like he was on a new team when I saw his baseball card.

He was also in an episode of King of the Hill

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

8 minutes ago, Philip said:

He was also in an episode of King of the Hill

Top 3 Appearances In An Animated TV Show By A Former San Diego Padre

#1. Kurt Bevacqua, King of the Hill:

Former pinch hitter and utility man Kurt Bevacqua, best remembered by Padres fans for his two home runs and .412 BA in the 1984 World Series, appeared in a third season episode of the greatest animated show of all time. In the episode, Bevacqua's wife is hired by Strickland Propane's nemesis Thatherton Fuels because league rules stipulate immediate family members are eligible to play on the softball teams. He appears briefly at the beginning of the episode and again at the end for the final showdown.

[Sports Guy]

I think we need to pull back on the Cronenworth obsession.

He turned 27 yesterday and 2020 was his first ML experience.  He certainly had a solid season but that was in less than 200 PA.  His minor league career, which consisted of almost 2200 plate appearances saw a guy with a 769 career OPS and a slugging that was sub 400 despite a 900+ OPS in AAA in 2019, a year and in a league where offense was way up.  He also wasn't exactly young for the league that year either.  Prior to that, he had a pretty mediocre to poor MiL career outside of A ball in 2016.

Now, he certainly was a good OBP guy (outside of 2018) and that's important and scouts seem to like his defense.  He even could be a 2 way player.

I am certainly in favor of acquiring him but I think we need to watch how we are rating him.  Perhaps he is a late bloomer, that is certainly possible.  His profile reads of a guy that is just a baseball player and is the type of guy you like to have around.  But you also have to wonder why SD is doing everything they can to not give him at bats. Seems like Kim and Profar should be viewed as inferior players, especially when you consider salary.

[dbmillertime]

When I hear the name Kurt Bevacqua, all I think about is Tommy Lasorda’s rant about him.  One of the funniest answers to a reporter ever!  Cuss laden response Not Safe For Work!!!!....Tommy Lasorda on Kurt Bevacqua

[LookinUp]

34 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

I think we need to pull back on the Cronenworth obsession.

He turned 27 yesterday and 2020 was his first ML experience.  He certainly had a solid season but that was in less than 200 PA.  His minor league career, which consisted of almost 2200 plate appearances saw a guy with a 769 career OPS and a slugging that was sub 400 despite a 900+ OPS in AAA in 2019, a year and in a league where offense was way up.  He also wasn't exactly young for the league that year either.  Prior to that, he had a pretty mediocre to poor MiL career outside of A ball in 2016.

Now, he certainly was a good OBP guy (outside of 2018) and that's important and scouts seem to like his defense.  He even could be a 2 way player.

I am certainly in favor of acquiring him but I think we need to watch how we are rating him.  Perhaps he is a late bloomer, that is certainly possible.  His profile reads of a guy that is just a baseball player and is the type of guy you like to have around.  But you also have to wonder why SD is doing everything they can to not give him at bats. Seems like Kim and Profar should be viewed as inferior players, especially when you consider salary.

The bolded is what I've been saying too. Nobody knows him like SD, yet they keep signing guys instead of assuming he has a spot. Doesn't scream out loud that he's a great player.

[ofan239]

25 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

The bolded is what I've been saying too. Nobody knows him like SD, yet they keep signing guys instead of assuming he has a spot. Doesn't scream out loud that he's a great player.

Or they signed Profar to build depth at a position so they can trade for something that they need . Worst case scenario he’s a useful utility player . Best case scenario he’s your multi positional player and lead off hitter for a few years . I see no downside to this trade .

[Sports Guy]

26 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

The bolded is what I've been saying too. Nobody knows him like SD, yet they keep signing guys instead of assuming he has a spot. Doesn't scream out loud that he's a great player.

Yep.  I mean, they liked him enough to target him a trade and then he comes in and performs well for you and yet, you want to block him with higher priced guys that, on paper, don't seem to be better or worth the money difference.

I would certainly like to add him but I don't know what for.  I am not sure there is a match here unless we want to give up a Tanner Scott or if they want Santander..I could see them having interest in him, especially if they get the DH in the NL.  They could move Myers there.

[Sports Guy]

Just now, ofan239 said:

Or they signed Profar to build depth at a position so they can trade for something that they need . Worst case scenario he’s a useful utility player . Best case scenario he’s your multi positional player and lead off hitter for a few years . I see no downside to this trade .

But what trade?  You can't say there is no downside without knowing what we have to give up.

[LookinUp]

3 minutes ago, ofan239 said:

Or they signed Profar to build depth at a position so they can trade for something that they need . Worst case scenario he’s a useful utility player . Best case scenario he’s your multi positional player and lead off hitter for a few years . I see no downside to this trade .

This is either 1) true or 2) false. Lol. If true I'd guess it means they have a trade pretty much lined up. Crazier things have happened. If not true, it probably means they don't love him as a player. Just saying.

[ofan239]

2 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

But what trade?  You can't say there is no downside without knowing what we have to give up.

Well I would have to figure we’d give up a player at a position that we have some depth in. That would probably be outfield . That may be Santander . Don’t think I would trade him straight up for Cronenworth but maybe a package containing Cronenworth - I am not sure . But this acquisition would be something we sorely need and have needed - A potential middle infielder who could fill time in the infield and  the outfield . He finished 2nd in ROY voting and yeah you could point to his sept numbers and say they weren’t very good and that he had one good month . I also looked at his walk verses k rate and it was 8bb/13k . That’s a very good percentage so he 1 ) he has a good idea of the strike zone and 2 ) can still make an impact in the lineup.  I’d put him at short and at second in ST and he what he could do. I think he could be an everyday player at a position of need . I just think he needs an opportunity.

Edited January 22, 2021 by ofan239