HowAboutThat Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Meanwhile all the folks who wanted Martin may now ponder whether they would have traded him for Berrios? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdinBama Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I'm betting that Elias wouldn't hesitate to trade Mancini assuming a decent return. I wouldn't just give away our leader in home runs and rbi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yardball85 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, Philip said: Means doesn’t have half of Berrios’ value Berrios is the more established pitcher, sure, but he is a FA after next season. Means has three more years of control after this year. It isn't as far apart as you think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il BuonO Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said: A lot could happen between now and the deadline but I'm still thinking we stand pat. Maybe trade a bullpen arm but that's it. Haha, you silly man. Know you not they received cash considerations for Lord Armstrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsFanSinceThe80s Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Hazmat said: Wow, Austen Martin reported to be going to the Twins. Elias needs to pull the trigger on a trade if he can net a similar return for Means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il BuonO Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 The Padres are O for this exercise of acquiring a starting pitcher. Just give away the division why don’tcha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BohKnowsBmore Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, Philip said: I’m pretty sure ownership has given Mike carte blanche to reshape the organization as he sees fit, my own wonder is whether he has an artificial sense of what Mancini is worth and he’s insisting on too much? Blocking a potential Mancini trade is not impossible but so foolish asked to be out of the realm of a reasonable possibilities 18 minutes ago, connja said: Totally agree with this. I also feel there is no way we get a good return, so expect him to be in the lineup tonight. I would say it's more likely that Rizzo might have been the focus in the market prior to him going to the Yankees. He may remain in Baltimore, but I don't think that the only explanation is the team being unreasonable in its expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Milligan Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Il BuonO said: Haha, you silly man. Know you not they received cash considerations for Lord Armstrong? Yeah, I'm not really counting that. Yeah, it COUNTS per se...but that's not moving any needles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw76 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Yardball85 said: I wonder if the haul the Twins got for Berrios would sway Elias to trade Means for a similar package... SD and even TB could provide that. Who all is left that has been rumored, Gibson, Gray, Pineda, Davies, Cobb, Hendricks? I'm sure I'm missing some names, but still a lot of guys left. I would hope that a package similar to Berrios would sway Elias. They got two top 5 guys in return, I'd be pretty happy with that considering how Means has pitched in his rehab and ML games since coming back from injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il BuonO Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, Philip said: I’m pretty sure ownership has given Mike carte blanche to reshape the organization as he sees fit, my own wonder is whether he has an artificial sense of what Mancini is worth and he’s insisting on too much? Blocking a potential Mancini trade is not impossible but so foolish asked to be out of the realm of a reasonable possibilities I’m pretty sure you or I don’t know that. The owner’s last name is still Angelos. I want to say you’re right, but until I see evidence I don’t believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il BuonO Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said: Yeah, I'm not really counting that. Yeah, it COUNTS per se...but that's not moving any needles. I’m not even sure it counts PER SE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCRaven Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I think folks here overestimate the value that a good (not great) right-handed hitting firstbaseman has for other teams. And while I don't think Mancini is a great hitter, he's still the second best hitter on this team. Neither Hays nor Mountcastle have stepped up as hoped. Only Mullins has been better. So Trey has more value here than anywhere else. I would expect them to re-look at a Mancini trade during the off-season when more teams will be looking at building out their rosters for 2022. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il BuonO Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, Yardball85 said: I wonder if the haul the Twins got for Berrios would sway Elias to trade Means for a similar package... SD and even TB could provide that. I do it in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowAboutThat Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Yardball85 said: Berrios is the more established pitcher, sure, but he is a FA after next season. Means has three more years of control after this year. It isn't as far apart as you think. Yeah you’re right I forgot about the control issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BohKnowsBmore Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, Philip said: Means doesn’t have half of Berrios’ value Not sure I agree Berrios: 781.1 IP; 4.08 ERA; 106 ERA+; 4.01 FIP; 1.233 WHIP; 9.0 K/9; 3.08 K/BB; Pending FA Means: 284.2 IP; 3.67 ERA; 126 ERA+; 4.64 FIP; 1.043 WHIP; 7.6 K/9; 4.07 K/BB; Three years remaining control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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