2021 Orioles #18 Prospect - Mike Baumann - RHP

[Tony-OH]

https://www.orioleshangout.com/2021/11/11/18-michael-baumann/

[LookinUp]

Fair. It's always tough to swallow an injury like his. No surgery. Not a full recovery. Will he ever be the same? The September snapshot was not good. 

 

[Ridgway22]

This one stings. Was looking forward to him being a mid-rotation guy and stabilizing one of the five spots. Fingers crossed the offseason fixes what ails him.

[wildcard]

Baumann had success in Bowie in July and Norfolk in August.  Did you see him during that period?  Did he look any different from what we saw in Sept?

Splits according Norfolk stats at milb.com

July 3-0,  2.05 ERA, 4 S, 22 IP,  13 H,  26 K, .169 avg, 0.77 WHIP at Bowie

August  0-1,  1.64 ERA, 5 S,  22IP, 14 H, 22 K, 187 avg, 1.23 WHIP at Norfolk

https://www.milb.com/player/mike-baumann-657508?stats=splits-r-pitching-mlb&year=2021

[Frobby]

Very fair, and very thorough and informative write-up.    I do think that if Baumann recovers his 2019 stuff he could exceed the ceiling you gave him, but who knows if that will happen?

[HowAboutThat]

Lo, how the mighty have fallen…

[Just Regular]

I see these labels on both guys today...

Most Likely Future Role: Multi-inning reliever
Ceiling: 5th starter

...and absent roster/rules changes to refurbish the Starting Pitcher's role in the game feel like they are the same thing.    Chad Green and Jonathan Loaisiga >>  Nestor Cortes and Corey Kluber, and how Hall, Bradish, Baumann, T. Wells land in middle distance the next few years doesn't feel super important.    Obviously fantastic if Hall can break through that 40-75 pitch ceiling, but after covid and the stress fracture his opportunity to throw 30 x 100 pitches every 6th day any season feels like 2024 (2025?) at the earliest from here

Baumann had the onion layers of whatever elbow thing it was shortening his already abbreviated COVID 2020, so fingers crossed a regular healthy offseason brings back a fastball he can truck hitters with.   The first leading indicator I'll be looking to whenever camps open is Elias, Hyde whoever not having to set expectation he is "easing in", and then the fastball metrics from games.

By May I could picture Means, Rodriguez, Baker, Garcia, T. Wells, Sulser, Lowther, Bradish, Baumann as nine guys I wouldn't be embarrassed to watch pitch any given night, alongside hopefully a bounceback somewhere in this year's bad batch.   I guess that makes Zimmermann/Tate/Lopez kind of the layer of, Will the offseason put any pressure on their roster spots (or innings given in Lopez's case), or will the 2022 team need them up for 26 weeks and 300 innings?

[HowAboutThat]

25 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

I see these labels on both guys today...

Most Likely Future Role: Multi-inning reliever
Ceiling: 5th starter

...and absent roster/rules changes to refurbish the Starting Pitcher's role in the game feel like they are the same thing.    Chad Green and Jonathan Loaisiga >>  Nestor Cortes and Corey Kluber, and how Hall, Bradish, Baumann, T. Wells land in middle distance the next few years doesn't feel super important.    Obviously fantastic if Hall can break through that 40-75 pitch ceiling, but after covid and the stress fracture his opportunity to throw 30 x 100 pitches every 6th day any season feels like 2024 (2025?) at the earliest from here

Baumann had the onion layers of whatever elbow thing it was shortening his already abbreviated COVID 2020, so fingers crossed a regular healthy offseason brings back a fastball he can truck hitters with.   The first leading indicator I'll be looking to whenever camps open is Elias, Hyde whoever not having to set expectation he is "easing in", and then the fastball metrics from games.

By May I could picture Means, Rodriguez, Baker, Garcia, T. Wells, Sulser, Lowther, Bradish, Baumann as nine guys I wouldn't be embarrassed to watch pitch any given night, alongside hopefully a bounceback somewhere in this year's bad batch.   I guess that makes Zimmermann/Tate/Lopez kind of the layer of, Will the offseason put any pressure on their roster spots (or innings given in Lopez's case), or will the 2022 team need them up for 26 weeks and 300 innings?

As I was reading your note I was momentarily confused… “Who is Baker?“

Then I realized that he is our latest scrapheap pick up, and I entirely agree with you. We are going to be getting many more waiver pick ups, and Baker’s spot, or Garcia’s spot might not be safe, Because you never know what you’re going to find in the higher class dumpsters.

Spending meaningful money on a meaningful arm is only a good idea if Mike flips the switch and decides to start improving the on field product, otherwise we’re just wasting money on next year’s version of Nate Karns or Matt Harvey. Those guys aren’t good enough to get innings over our own possibilities, and they are too expensive for what they give to be chosen over the best of the waiver wire claims.

[Just Regular]

39 minutes ago, Philip said:

Then I realized that he is our latest scrapheap pick up, and I entirely agree with you. We are going to be getting many more waiver pick ups, and Baker’s spot, or Garcia’s spot might not be safe, Because you never know what you’re going to find in the higher class dumpsters.

The CBA might delay the real Rule 5 draft, but with the need for Clubs to genuinely set their 40-man rosters as November 20 nears, Elias can kind of sort of have his own fake Rule 5 draft with everyone trying to sneak their Hunter Harveys through.

In terms of chance to make 2022 OD roster, I think Baker/Garcia about same as Tyler Wells on true talent, and bonus that the Club isn't even encumbered by the need to keep them on the big league roster, etc.

Coming up on Elias' 3rd anniversary, I rewatched his introductory press conference on YouTube recently and Jim Hunter on the post-interview interview reminded me of the detail the Orioles 40-man as of ~November 20, 2018 basically had to be set the day after the press conference.

[HowAboutThat]

5 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

The CBA might delay the real Rule 5 draft, but with the need for Clubs to genuinely set their 40-man rosters as November 20 nears, Elias can kind of sort of have his own fake Rule 5 draft with everyone trying to sneak their Hunter Harveys through.

That is an excellent point. Every team is going to have guys they can try and slip through waivers, Mike has first crack at all of them.

It is the tiniest of silver lining, but it is a silver lining…

[sportsfan8703]

17 hours ago, Philip said:

That is an excellent point. Every team is going to have guys they can try and slip through waivers, Mike has first crack at all of them.

It is the tiniest of silver lining, but it is a silver lining…

Good point. We can target some more Mateo types hopefully. Harvey seemed a bit disgruntled.