Elias Q&A with Meoli

[Sports Guy]

The first 3 questions are nothing and barely worth asking to begin with.

The final 2 are the headliners and the answers are horrible.

 

[Moose Milligan]

Eh.  I wouldn't say they were horrible answers. 

Pretty much a fluff piece overall though.  Nothing to be gleaned from it.  Though that won't stop people from trying.

[wildcard]

He basically said that he is waiting for the internal team and prospects to gel and then he will add to it to make a playoff run.   That is not a surprise.   No big spending this off season waiting for Adley, Grayson, Hall, Stowers, Bradish, Baumann, Westburg to join Mullins, Mountcastle, Hays, Means, T Wells and Santander.  

Sounds consistent with what he has been saying to me.  

[waroriole]

I’m not sure what you’d expect him to say. He’s not gonna say in 22 we continue to tabk, in 23 we add a mid tier FA at an area of need, then in 24 we sign a 200M contract with someone or trade a few Top 10 minor leaguers for a star. 

[Sports Guy]

27 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Eh.  I wouldn't say they were horrible answers. 

Pretty much a fluff piece overall though.  Nothing to be gleaned from it.  Though that won't stop people from trying.

It’s horrible because of what the answers are.  They may be expected answers but the answers themselves are terrible.  
 

We are completely f’ed until this cancer of a family sells this team.

[wildcard]

He said we are Tampa.    

5 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

It’s horrible because of what the answers are.  They may be expected answers but the answers themselves are terrible.  
 

We are completely f’ed until this cancer of a family sells this team.

He said the O's  are like Tampa.   The O's have to build through the farm system and when they collect enough  good young players then they can compete with the rest of the division by adding a few veterans.

[Aristotelian]

Lol, I got absolutely nothing out of that. Nothing questions, nothing answers. 

[Frobby]

47 minutes ago, wildcard said:

He basically said that he is waiting for the internal team and prospects to gel and then he will add to it to make a playoff run.   That is not a surprise.   No big spending this off season waiting for Adley, Grayson, Hall, Stowers, Bradish, Baumann, Westburg to join Mullins, Mountcastle, Hays, Means, T Wells and Santander.  

Sounds consistent with what he has been saying to me.  

I agree.   I do think that his remarks indicate we can expect to see significant progress at the major league level in 2022.   Hope that proves correct.   

[Sports Guy]

And what happens if guys don’t move forward enough in 2022?  What happens if some injuries occur?  Do we wait yet another year until we start trying to be good?

Its a moronic strategy but it’s not his fault.  He was just dealt the worst ownership hand.

[Sports Guy]

He’s still playing the card that you have to lose and be terrible for so long before you can win yet he has done nothing, outside of a few high picks, that he couldn’t have done if he was trying to put a better product on the field right now.

Its all bs.  It’s all a way to get the fan base in line while the owners steal from us.  That’s all this is and I can’t believe people continue to fall for it.  It’s truly astounding to me.

This offseason should be about getting this team to a 75ish win level with a mix of trades, FA signings and additions from the minors.  Instead, they are basically going to be in tank mode again except with better talent coming from the minors, so maybe they are able to win 65 or so games instead of 50. 

[Aglets]

26 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

And what happens if guys don’t move forward enough in 2022?  What happens if some injuries occur?  Do we wait yet another year until we start trying to be good?

Its a moronic strategy but it’s not his fault.  He was just dealt the worst ownership hand.

It's a strategy that has led to 5 straight ALCS appearances (3 WS appearances) for at least one team.  Is it guaranteed to work here?   No.  This is professional sports..........where absolutely nothing is guaranteed.  But there is no reason why it can't work here.  Dismissing it as moronic is infantile and closed-minded.

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, Aglets said:

It's a strategy that has led to 5 straight ALCS appearances (3 WS appearances) for at least one team.  Is it guaranteed to work here?   No.  This is professional sports..........where absolutely nothing is guaranteed.  But there is no reason why it can't work here.  Dismissing it as moronic is infantile and closed-minded.

Lol

It takes a special level of being naive to think this is what needs to happen to win.

[Yardball85]

1 hour ago, wildcard said:

He said we are Tampa.    

He said the O's  are like Tampa.   The O's have to build through the farm system and when they collect enough  good young players then they can compete with the rest of the division by adding a few veterans.

It sucks that the O's have to "be like Tampa."  We can adopt some of their strategies for developing talent, but we also shouldn't be crying poor like them.  

[Sports Guy]

4 minutes ago, Yardball85 said:

It sucks that the O's have to "be like Tampa."  We can adopt some of their strategies for developing talent, but we also shouldn't be crying poor like them.  

Exactly.  The difference between the Os and Tampa are that we can sign FAs to larger deals and we can keep our own and not feel forced to trade them.

The “Tampa model” of how to build the minors is something teams have been doing for decades.  That is nothing new.  It’s like the “Oriole Way”.
 

 

[Yardball85]

2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Exactly.  The difference between the Os and Tampa are that we can sign FAs to larger deals and we can keep our own and not feel forced to trade them.

The “Tampa model” of how to build the minors is something teams have been doing for decades.  That is nothing new.  It’s like the “Oriole Way”.
 

 

Right.  And it is a fine model to follow, but the Orioles should not, and cannot, avoid handing out smart free agent contracts and trading for players.  You can't JUST follow the "Tampa Model."