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Just now, Flash- bd said:

I'm not really seeing it. Gunnar, Stowers, and Westburg clearly have things to work on re: their K rate. 

I think it's more about how young hitters are always going to have an adaption period to the MLB (see: Adley, Witt) no matter how bad they are tearing up minor league pitching, and it's unlikely these guys are going to improve us in the short term. 

I would personally go more for a DJ Stewart, someone raking at AAA who has MLB experience. 

In 2012 Dan and Buck brought up a AA Manny Machado to play third mainly for his bat.   To give the Orioles a little spark in the play off race that year.   In 2022 Elias give you Odor and Urias and Phillips.   When we have the top prospect in all of baseball just sitting there ready.  Not even to mention Stowers who cant be worse than Odor.   

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IMO, you put your better players in the more important game to give you the best of chance of winning.  Doesn't mean they'll get it done but it gives you a better chance, especially when 2 of you main

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My nextdoor neighbors are at the game today with their 4yo and 6yo girls.  Their first time at OPACY.  Told them about the Kids' Corner, lent them caps (I refuse to call them "hats") and some fake tat

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5 minutes ago, Flash- bd said:

I'm not really seeing it. Gunnar, Stowers, and Westburg clearly have things to work on re: their K rate. 

I think it's more about how young hitters are always going to have an adaption period to the MLB (see: Adley, Witt) no matter how bad they are tearing up minor league pitching, and it's unlikely these guys are going to improve us in the short term. 

I would personally go more for a DJ Stewart, someone raking at AAA who has MLB experience. 

DJ STEWART??? 

That dude can't hit big league pitching and is comically bad in the outfield.

 

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In 2012 Dan and Buck brought up a AA Manny Machado to play third mainly for his bat.   To give the Orioles a little spark in the play off race that year.   In 2022 Elias give you Odor and Urias and Phillips.   When we have the top prospect in all of baseball just sitting there ready.  Not even to mention Stowers who cant be worse than Odor.   

No he didn’t. He was brought up for his glove. Betemit was a bad defender. Had issues at 3rd all year.  

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1 minute ago, Flash- bd said:

I'm not really seeing it. Gunnar, Stowers, and Westburg clearly have things to work on re: their K rate. 

I think it's more about how young hitters are always going to have an adaption period to the MLB (see: Adley, Witt) no matter how bad they are tearing up minor league pitching, and it's unlikely these guys are going to improve us in the short term. 

I would personally go more for a DJ Stewart, someone raking at AAA who has MLB experience. 

But even if the rookie adjustment period is a consideration, I think if you weren't intentionally trying to extend team control, you could've brought Westburg and Stowers up in July with the hope that he could contribute in September. They're 23/24 and have had 400 ABs at AAA. Gunnar might be a different story because he is much younger, has had fewer ABs, and the clock might actually matter with him.

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Just now, Alasdaire said:

But even if the rookie adjustment period is a consideration, I think if you weren't intentionally trying to extend team control, you could've brought Westburg and Stowers up in July with the hope that he could contribute in September. They're 23/24 and have had 400 ABs at AAA. Gunnar might be a different story because he is much younger, has had fewer ABs, and the clock might actually matter with him.

You did see where the Braves have brought up two guys from AA?

They've already extended one of them so they don't have to worry about his clock.

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Are we all complaining about this piss poor offense the last 3 days?

 Coming into today they have averaged 4.66 runs a game in August. 70 runs in 15 games. They have been hit or miss lately but it’s not like they have been awful. 

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 I almost wish the Orioles just sucked totally this season.  Last year I could watch the games without any frustration at all.  I knew we were going to loose 100.   Now this year I can just taste a wild card position and seeing Elias just treating everything as business as usual is aggravating.   Maybe in the long run whatever he is doing will be the best course.   But for a fan with an actual heart in the games.....this just sucks.   

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Just now, Can_of_corn said:

You did see where the Braves have brought up two guys from AA?

They've already extended one of them so they don't have to worry about his clock.

Oh, I agree. I don't like the defeatist approach of keeping a guy in the minors instead of on a team that is ostensibly competing rather than figuring out a way to make the money work instead. I'm just saying that I really don't get Stowers and Westburg still being at AAA given the also-rans that are populating our current lineup, whereas you can kind of make a case for Gunnar given age and potential.

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Pretty disrespectful of the Cubs to run up the score on us like that. You already had an insurmountable lead, call off the dogs already…

EDIT: And now another HR? One run was more than enough, now it’s just piling on. 

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6 minutes ago, Gurgi said:

In 2012 Dan and Buck brought up a AA Manny Machado to play third mainly for his bat.   To give the Orioles a little spark in the play off race that year.   In 2022 Elias give you Odor and Urias and Phillips.   When we have the top prospect in all of baseball just sitting there ready.  Not even to mention Stowers who cant be worse than Odor.   

And he was more influential with his glove (98 OPS+).

Even if Manny had been more influential with his bat, it would be an exception, not the rule, the reality is most young hitters struggle in their first few months of big league ball. 

6 minutes ago, DEOriolesfan said:

DJ STEWART??? 

That dude can't hit big league pitching and is comically bad in the outfield.

 

Yeah, as a DH or 1B, obviously. And I'm not as sure as you that he can't hit big league pitching, he's had times at the big league level where he's looked promising, I would give him a shot, his 97 OPS+ is hardly much worse than what we're seeing in the alternatives, he's LH, and he's raking at AAA. 

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Just now, Alasdaire said:

Oh, I agree. I don't like the defeatist approach of keeping a guy in the minors instead of on a team that is ostensibly competing rather than figuring out a way to make the money work instead. I'm just saying that I really don't get Stowers and Westburg still being at AAA given the also-rans that are populating our current lineup, whereas you can kind of make a case for Gunnar given age and potential.

I think any argument you make about Gunnar is just to make an argument.

And I'm kinda an expert on that.

They are probably holding him back so he can work on his defense at first. 

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