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Just now, interloper said:

All I want for Urias is a good 7th inning arm and a prospect. 

A frickin men. I'd be thrilled with that return. I wonder if the Dodgers would consider trading Graterol?I think I'd make that trade straight up w/out a prospect, if they'd do it. 

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Not believing in a player's recent hot streak and hoping that another team willing to trade for him does believe is one of my favorite OH wet dreams of all time.  

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If the Dodgers are willing to trade away Miller or Stone, the O's pack Mateo in bubble wrap and rush him to BWI.  Either would instantly slot in the pipeline between Grayson and tier 2 SPs.  I don't v

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Does the 21yr old top prospect in the MLB bring back a 25 year old Dodgers depth starter? Lol what

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7 minutes ago, HandsomeQuack said:

Mateo is also three weeks of good baseball removed from a .267 OBP and .646 OPS. I do buy his offensive improvements this year, but I don't know that the Dodgers would pay much more than a lottery ticket prospect for him at this point.

Well, he was a 3.5 rWAR player last year despite his paltry offensive numbers, so it’s not like the Dodgers would be acquiring a player whose only value was derived from a three-week heater.  But obviously the return from the trade would partially depend on whether the Dodgers (and the Orioles) believe that Mateo’s offensive improvement is at least partially sustainable.

FWIW, before the season ZiPS pegged Mateo’s median projection at .670 OPS, 89 wRC+.   Now, ZiPS projects the rest of his season (not including the games already played) at .698 OPS, 97 wRC+.  So, ZiPS believes that at least some of the improvement is real, though not most of it.   With the 17 games already played, that would put Mateo’s full season numbers in the range of .738 OPS, 107 wRC+.   

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He has too much positional versatility and team control for that. But it would depend on the caliber of prospect, of course.

I dunno. I think trying to get a SP that we'd actually plug into the rotation over our current candidates is a bit of a stretch. I do get it because of the GG, the 3+ WAR last year, the years of control, etc. But he's basically a super utility guy at the end of the day. I just think if you can get a shutdown reliever for him, that fills your biggest need while creating room for Westburg or Ortiz. 

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3 minutes ago, interloper said:

I dunno. I think trying to get a SP that we'd actually plug into the rotation over our current candidates is a bit of a stretch. I do get it because of the GG, the 3+ WAR last year, the years of control, etc. But he's basically a super utility guy at the end of the day. I just think if you can get a shutdown reliever for him, that fills your biggest need while creating room for Westburg or Ortiz. 

If the reliever is really good or the prospect is a pitcher and (close to) ML-ready then I agree that they should consider it. But he is valuable enough in his current role that I wouldn't move him for moving him sake.

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37 minutes ago, HakunaSakata said:

We can't trade Mateo now. But I think that's mostly because of what he's doing offensively, not defensively. If he had regressed to being more of a defensive specialist, as some of us had expected (raises hand), then I think trading him for pitching and replacing him with another solid defensive player (in Urias) would have been worth exploring. It's a moot point now, but they should defniitely be shopping Urias. 

Mateo playing well may increase his odds of being traded, or it should at least.  

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