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I dont know if Im allowed to talk about the Tides on this page....but Stowers is ridiculous and so is Kjerstad

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6 minutes ago, NCRaven said:

And of course they're tied 10-10.  🙂

 

They have to be setting records in terms of combined runs scored and allowed. 
 

There can’t be many teams higher 7 games into a season.  

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On 4/4/2024 at 10:21 PM, Malike said:

Tides are averaging 12.3 runs per game and yielding 9.3 runs per game. Pretty funny how bad the pitching is.

Wonder if the Tides can set the minor leagues or at least AAA runs scored and runs allowed record.

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1 hour ago, eddie83 said:

They have to be setting records in terms of combined runs scored and allowed. 
 

There can’t be many teams higher 7 games into a season.  

After 2 more hits tonight…Coby MaYo is hitting .384…Kjerstsad hit another HR tonight he’s now hitting .531..Stowers hit his SIXTH HR tonight..he's hitting .343..

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39 minutes ago, Roy Firestone said:

After 2 more hits tonight…Coby MaYo is hitting .384…Kjerstsad hit another HR tonight he’s now hitting .531..Stowers hit his SIXTH HR tonight..he's hitting .343..

Top 7 hitters in the lineup had an OPS over 1.100.

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2 hours ago, Roy Firestone said:

After 2 more hits tonight…Coby MaYo is hitting .384…Kjerstsad hit another HR tonight he’s now hitting .531..Stowers hit his SIXTH HR tonight..he's hitting .343..

Wow…. It’s pretty unbelievable. I saw on Roch’s  article ….6 Homeruns and 25 RBI already for Kjerstad.

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25 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Wow…. It’s pretty unbelievable. I saw on Roch’s  article ….6 Homeruns and 25 RBI already for Kjerstad.

There is zero reason a guy doing that in AAA should still be at AAA.  Especially considering he is a young prospect.

 

I can say that for 3 others there at Norfolk as well.

 

Let the young fledgling birdlings fly!  Set them free!

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We have a lot of guys on a heater at the same time.  It's nuts, but they will regress.  They scored 10 in the first and then one more the rest of the game.  Kjerstad homered and then struck out 3 times.  There is a place for Holliday to play, but other than him there really is nowhere for any of these others at the moment.  Cowser is ahead of the rest and Hays is ahead of him.  The question for next year is do you let Santander walk and trade Hays or make him the 4th outfielder.  I guess we will see.

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The Tides are 6-1 despite having allowed 66 runs in 64 innings. In the last 50 years no MLB team has ever had more than four wins in any seven-game span where they allowed at least 60 runs. 25 teams have gone 4-3 in a span where they gave up at least 60, topped by last year's Rockies who went 4-3 in late June despite allowing 64 runs and scoring just 32. That was enabled by 25-1 and 14-3 losses.

Expanding the search to 1901, 10 MLB teams have gone 5-2 after allowing 60+ runs in a 7-game span, but no one has gone 6-1. Only the '29 Phils allowed as many as 65 runs in their 5-2 span (they gave up 67).

The Tides are 6-1 after having allowed 66 runs. I don't know if there are minor league teams that have topped this, that search is essentially impossible with today's tools. But if they were a MLB team this 7-game span would be pretty unprecedented.

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One thing to keep in mind (besides the microscopic sample size) is that Norfolk's run context (the number of runs scored per team per game) is 10.8. Or more than double the rate of runs scored in the 2023 majors, and way higher than the context of pretty much any MLB team since the early 1870s.

It's far, far too early to draw any real conclusions from this. But... when you're analyzing a team with a gargantuan run context the result of all of this is that each run is worth far less than a run in a more normal environment. Basically it takes 11 runs to win a Norfolk Tides game, when it takes a little over four to win a normal team's game. So if you create a run in Toledo that's worth something like 2.5 times what a run in Nofolk is worth.

In simple terms, if this were to keep up all year (which it won't!) a 1.275 OPS in Tides games might be about as valuable as a .800 elsewhere. It's like 1996 Rockies games where decidedly mediocre MLB players like Dante Bichette and Mike Kingery would hit .350 with power.

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